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| rk42 | hello | 07:03 |
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| Jaakko | Hello all | 07:10 |
| Jaakko | Could someone help me, I'm wondering if I can take "snapshot", ie. save all upstream sources from certain build I'm trying to make, so that I can replicate it offline.. I have tried to go trough the manuals, and found BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS, but it makes quite a lot of data, is it all needed actually to build? any help is appreciated =) | 07:13 |
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| erbo | Jaakko: I think that's the way to go. You can get some ideas from e.g. https://pelux.io/software-factory/PELUX-3.0/swf-blueprint/docs/articles/baseplatform/reproducible-yocto-builds.html | 07:48 |
| erbo | It's not all relevant for you, but parts of the info is probably useful | 07:49 |
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| mckoan | erbo: very interesting project thanks for sharing ;-) | 08:11 |
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| Jaakko | Hey thanks very much erbo | 08:48 |
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| sk_tandt | Greetings! I'm trying to build a GTK3 app within an embedded build, and even if the m4 macro for GTK has been added, I still get gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory within bitbake | 09:03 |
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| RP | Jaakko: the easiest method is probably a clean download directory and set your original downloads directory as a "own-mirror". Then a "bitbake <target> --runonly=fetch" | 09:44 |
| RP | Jaakko: The MIRROR_TARBALLS variable creates tarballs of any source control repos it checks out so its easier to use the end result as a mirror. You can likely discard the git2 and other scm work directories if you do that | 09:45 |
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| florian | good morning | 09:56 |
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| erbo | mckoan: yeah it's a interesting effort, and although it's mainly targeted towards automotive it contains some good stuff that's generic | 10:07 |
| florian | armpit: done | 10:07 |
| erbo | I used to work on it in its early days | 10:07 |
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| kanavin | RP: thanks, I'll take a look | 10:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | is there a way to dynamically set/extend VARDEPS so that it triggers changes in sigdata? | 10:34 |
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| LetoThe2nd | RP: ^^^^^^ | 10:35 |
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| LetoThe2nd | rationale: we have a recipe that modifies a sourcefile based on variable replacements. now we would like to rebuild whenever one of the variables change, but we do not know which ones are relevant in advance, e.g. we parse the template file during a custom task after do_fetch | 10:37 |
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| kanavin | RP: that library (libEGL) needs to be installed on the host | 10:38 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: the premise of the code is that you can calculate the signature in advance | 10:38 |
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| LetoThe2nd | RP: in terms of, without executing any tasks? | 10:39 |
| RP | kanavin: ah, right. So we have inconsistent installs on the builders | 10:39 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: yes, else how can it know to fetch from sstate? | 10:39 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: humkay. any pointers on the problem described, maybe? | 10:39 |
| kanavin | RP: yep, I think so. The same test passed fine on ubuntu's | 10:40 |
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| RP | LetoThe2nd: best you can do is depend on the hash of the upstream source control | 10:40 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: when it changes, it rebuilds | 10:40 |
| RP | kanavin: sounds like I need to talk to halstead and we need to audit the dependencies in the manuals | 10:41 |
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| RP | LetoThe2nd: the sstate hash equivalency changes are related to what you're asking | 10:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: yeah i noticed there was something going on, but didn't follow the details. | 10:42 |
| * RP would love to work on that but other problems right now | 10:42 | |
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| LetoThe2nd | RP: i see. well in a nutshell it means for my given situation: does work as expected, we either need another evil hack, or manually fill vardeps. agreed? | 10:44 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: I think so | 10:44 |
| RP | kanavin: can't help wonder if we could kill off FuncFailed, its a horrendous idea. Patch looks good though | 10:45 |
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| LetoThe2nd | RP: okay, thanks for the explanation! | 10:45 |
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| kanavin | RP: I can't really offer an opinion, but yes, there's a lot of baggage in the exception handling code | 10:47 |
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| RP | kanavin: I didn't know what I was doing with some of that stuff :( | 10:49 |
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| sk_tandt | Out of curiosity: the last release for the ADT that I can find is 2.0.3 | 11:05 |
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| sk_tandt | *is within yocto 2.0.3 | 11:06 |
| sk_tandt | Is it now deprecated? | 11:06 |
| RP | sk_tandt: the SDK and eSDK are the current toolchain offerings | 11:08 |
| sk_tandt | Good, supposed as much | 11:08 |
| lukma | RP: If I may ask - is the glibc-init package only to build and install crtX.o and allow further development/build of e.g. gcc ? | 11:16 |
| sk_tandt | Mh, and yet: I've installed the Yocto SDK Eclipse plugin, but I can't find the toolchain built with bitbake meta-ide-support: isn't it within my usual build/tmp ? | 11:16 |
| lukma | RP: Or is there any other gotcha? | 11:16 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to avoid giving autoreconf in yocto? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54648593/how-to-avoid-giving-autoreconf-in-yocto> || How to securely update configuration for root password in yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54648532/how-to-securely-update-configuration-for-root-password-in-yocto> | 11:17 |
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| BuddyButterfly1 | hi | 11:34 |
| BuddyButterfly1 | is it possible to access barebox environment from within yocto linux? | 11:34 |
| BuddyButterfly1 | I would like to change the next boot target from within linux. | 11:35 |
| BuddyButterfly1 | (change of default target) | 11:35 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to securely update configuration for root password in yocto? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54648532/how-to-securely-update-configuration-for-root-password-in-yocto> | 11:47 |
| LetoThe2nd | BuddyButterfly1: here you go: http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/67489/ | 11:53 |
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| RP | lukma: we got rid of it in master | 11:56 |
| BuddyButterfly1 | LetoThe2nd: Oh, wow, cool! Thanks for pointing it out. | 12:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: one more thing (TM). is there a way or best practise to put a multiline string into a bb variable, e.g. into the recipe verbatim? | 12:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | BuddyButterfly1: have fun | 12:09 |
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| RP | LetoThe2nd: our escaping sucks :/ | 12:17 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to add python-xbee receipes for yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54345254/how-to-add-python-xbee-receipes-for-yocto> | 12:17 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: functions are multiline strings with the func varflag set | 12:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: can you elaborate on the last? | 12:18 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: somevar[func] = "1" | 12:19 |
| no_such_user | Hm... If I've got a couple of old boards to re-build & support (from danny & dylan) is there any "best practice" to follow? Most of our boards are build on an ubuntu 16.04 box as they're pyro - I could either have another box / VM running ubuntu 12.04 or I could try and port up the BSP's to pyro... | 12:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: so if i abuse that for a standard variable, it will basically be multilined? | 12:20 |
| no_such_user | Is that a heinous thing to do / likely to break the BSP builds in exciting and unexpected ways? | 12:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | no_such_user: go and find out (TM) | 12:20 |
| no_such_user | Ha :-D | 12:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | no_such_user: AFAICS there is no other generic answer. depending on your projects in can be painful or painless to forward it, and painful or painless to build on a newer ubuntu. | 12:22 |
| no_such_user | LetoThe2nd: OK, if you're not saying "youre insane to consider giving that a go" that's kind of a good starting point :-) | 12:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | no_such_user: not insane at all. | 12:22 |
| no_such_user | LetoThe2nd: Thanks - I still haven't quite worked out how Yocto works philosophically speaking! | 12:23 |
| no_such_user | It feels like Im a bit at the mercy of upstream layer maintainers (ie meta-freescale and meta-ti) and what targets / kernels they support in their releases... I wasnt sure if trying to keep versions going in my (later release) layers that theyve dropped for their layers is considered to be criminal or not! | 12:24 |
| no_such_user | and dont even get me started on the PPC targets I have... :-/ | 12:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | no_such_user: its the same as everywhere. if you expect something specific, insert coin. | 12:25 |
| no_such_user | LetoThe2nd: Oh sure - thats not a problem, more trying to make sure I dont start off a significant porting effort by heading off in what turns out to be a completely daft direction :-) | 12:27 |
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| lukma | RP: Ok, I will look on it (as now I do use 2.6.1) | 12:29 |
| RP | lukma: you can remove glibc-initial if you drop the siteconfig pieces basically | 12:34 |
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| sk_tandt | Using m4 in an autotools chain, getting configure: error: The pkg-config script could not be found or is too old (but it is present in the Host system). How do I add it to Yocto? | 13:34 |
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| sylvain_ | Hi all. I have a little question. With bitbake it is possible to create some variables flag VAR[a]="test1", VAR[b]="test2". Is it possible to use it for specific recipe, that is to say like this VAR_pn-<recipe_name>[a]="test3" ? | 13:40 |
| sylvain_ | thanks for your help | 13:40 |
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| RP | sylvain_: you can't use overrides with flags, no | 13:44 |
| sylvain_ | Ok. Thanks. Suppose i need to create variable like this VAR_a="", VAR_b="" and VAR_a_pn-<recipe-name<="" ? | 13:45 |
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| m314 | I'm trying to understand the poky/oe-core workflow. I would've expected oe-core to be a submodule in the poky repository, but that's not the case. It seems the poky repo is a fork of oe-core, which then just cherry-picks patches? | 13:55 |
| Crofton | m314, I would expect the same thing :) When I build projects I use submodules to build the project to help manage the layers | 13:57 |
| Crofton | for some reason poky doesn't do that | 13:57 |
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| m314 | Yeah, the thing is I'm trying to figure out the "proper" way to roll your own distro. Having meta-poky as a submodule seems a bit messy, so I thought the reference distribution would be the place to look for how to do it :-) | 13:59 |
| PinkSnake | Hi all, an open question: Do you think which is your favorite builder inside Yocto meson/ninja or Makefile/make ? and maybe why you prefer one or the other as solution ? Thx all :) | 14:03 |
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| Crofton | m314, there are several approaches, I've ended up using submodules | 14:05 |
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| yates | i'm getting weird results operating on the bluez5 recipe with devtool | 14:18 |
| yates | 1) devtool modify -x bluez5 src/bluez5 | 14:19 |
| yates | 2) i modify a file in src/bluez5/oe-local-files/ | 14:19 |
| yates | ... (hang on, checking something) | 14:21 |
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| yates | 3) i devtool build bluez | 14:26 |
| yates | here's the weird part: 4) i cd to src/bluez5 and do a "git status". i see a whole bunch of other files modified which i didn't modify, e.g., "Makefile.in, aclocal.m4, install-sh, ...", and i do NOT see the file I modified in the git status output | 14:28 |
| yates | further, i built the image which utilizes bluez and the file i modified (/etc/init.d/variscite-bt) is not modified | 14:29 |
| yates | so what's happening here? | 14:29 |
| yates | kergoth: are you here yet or pacific time? | 14:31 |
| yates | backup, new (simpler) question: | 14:44 |
| yates | if two different layers have a .bbappend file for the same recipe, will they both be applied? if so, in what order? | 14:45 |
| sk_tandt | yates, it's called overlayering: sorry not to be of more help, don't know much about it | 14:49 |
| yates | anyone? | 14:49 |
| yates | ok thanks sk_tandt | 14:50 |
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| sk_tandt | Btw, as for the modified files (Makefile.in): they seem to be due to a folder run of autotools | 14:53 |
| sk_tandt | perhaps an autoreconf or akin to it | 14:54 |
| yates | sk_tandt: yes, i finally realized that | 14:54 |
| yates | oe provides that (bluez5) recipe, but meta-variscite-fslc provides a .bbappend to it, including the use of some different run-time scripts. i want to modify one of the run-time scripts the mega-variscite-fslc .bbappend provides | 14:56 |
| yates | s/mega/meta/ | 14:57 |
| sk_tandt | Yup, figured you were referring to the BSPs : P | 14:58 |
| sk_tandt | What would you like to change? | 14:58 |
| yates | the variscite-bt script | 14:59 |
| yates | and the corresponding variscite-bt.conf configuration file | 14:59 |
| yates | in meta-variscite-fslc/recipes-connectivity/bluez5 | 15:00 |
| sk_tandt | Now, I may be way off as I am *very* new to the yocto usage, but | 15:00 |
| sk_tandt | I'd create a layer of my own, clone the bluiez5 recipe from the Variscite layer, change the config from files/variscite-bt and any other file, then include my forked recipe | 15:02 |
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| sk_tandt | (And layer, ofc) | 15:02 |
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| yates | i think that is discouraged by oe | 15:03 |
| yates | overriding recipes is what i think it's called/ | 15:03 |
| yates | ? | 15:04 |
| sk_tandt | Oh, I'd use another name | 15:04 |
| sk_tandt | Sorry, forgot to mention | 15:04 |
| yates | the solution may actually be very simple: define a bluez5_%.bbappend with a FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend and the corresponding files in my own custom layer | 15:05 |
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| yates | what i don't understand is the order in which these two .bbappends will be applied. | 15:11 |
| JPEW | yates: If there is any order, its probably based on layer priority | 15:13 |
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| yates | JPEW: that is what i was thinking. so we should be good. trying it now anyway to see what happens | 15:21 |
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| yates | where can i find the source for the xinput_calibrator utility that appears to come with sato matchbox? is matchbox a recipe i can devtool modify? | 15:39 |
| rburton | behold the magic of google! https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xinput_calibrator/ | 15:41 |
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| rburton | or, the recipe has a SRC_URI link in | 15:41 |
| kergoth | can also search the layer index for calibrator, or your localfilesystem | 15:42 |
| yates | thanks kindly | 15:44 |
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| RP | sjolley: can't get zoom to work again :( | 16:04 |
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| cdgarren | I'd like to run a different init.d script in my development image than my release image. Is the best way to do this just to create different recipes for my init script and select the specific one in my image recipes? | 16:38 |
| kergoth | probably best, yes | 16:43 |
| kergoth | or install them both with different names and just selectively *enable* them, i suppose | 16:43 |
| cdgarren | One of the things I want in my dev image allows some remote debugging, so I think I'd rather not have it on the system at all in the production image. Thanks for the ipunt. | 16:44 |
| cdgarren | Would there be any way to do this with the -dev or -dbg suffix, or similar? | 16:45 |
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| kergoth | if you're wanting a -dev to overwrite a file that's in another package, not going to happen | 17:05 |
| kergoth | both the binary package manager and bitbakew il get annoyed at conflicts | 17:06 |
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| yates | i'm at my wit's end with this | 17:18 |
| yates | here is my bluez5 .bbappend: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/SQnC6nS5cRuEyosRZE0PGQ | 17:18 |
| yates | which i was hoping would override the meta-variscite-fslc/recipes-connectivity/bluez5 bbappend | 17:19 |
| yates | it appears that my variscite-bt is getting installed, but my variscite-bt.conf is not. | 17:19 |
| yates | i'm at a loss to see why | 17:19 |
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| yates | oh. | 17:29 |
| sk_tandt_ | yates, figured out? | 17:29 |
| yates | looks like priorities are wrong | 17:29 |
| yates | bitbake-layers show-appends is a nice tool.. | 17:29 |
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| yates | in BBFILE_PRIORITY_layer1 = "n1" and BBFILE_PRIORITY_layer2 = "n2", layer1 will have priorty over layer 2 if n1 > n2? right? | 17:33 |
| yates | or is it n1 < n2> | 17:34 |
| yates | or is it n1 < n2? | 17:34 |
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| yates | RTFM Randy! | 17:37 |
| yates | yates: yes sir! | 17:37 |
| yates | does BBFILE_PRIORITY apply to .bbappend files as well as .bb files? | 17:39 |
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| yates | it's not working. i see my layer priority to 1000, which is higher than all others (from bitbake-layers shoiw-layers) | 17:42 |
| yates | but bitbake-layers show-appends shows my .bbappend lower than meta-variscite-fslc | 17:44 |
| yates | https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/aTrOnwpDLMfP6U0w-5c~LQ | 17:45 |
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| yates | https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/N0Wl-4kb3sm5SdbS3WqLBA | 17:45 |
| yates | is there a know bug about this? | 17:46 |
| yates | known | 17:48 |
| yates | kergoth, rburton? | 17:48 |
| yates | my layer is meta-ebtron | 17:49 |
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| yates | ? | 17:55 |
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| yates | RP: any input you can give on my problem? | 18:07 |
| yates | LetoThe2nd: or you? you have been very kind and helpful in the past | 18:07 |
| yates | this is hanging me up badly. | 18:12 |
| yates | how about this: SHOULD this work? | 18:13 |
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| RP | yates: Offhand I'd have said that should work. I'd put some bb.warn() into cooker.py and see what its really doing | 18:19 |
| RP | yates: filter the output with "if 'xxx' in name to only show details about the recipe you care about | 18:19 |
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| yates | RP: thank you. i'm trying to google-up "bb.warn/cooker.py" because i have no idea what you mean. | 18:23 |
| RP | yates: cooker.py is part of bitbake, the code in there handles bb file priorities in layers. I was suggesting you could gain more insight into what is going on with some print statements (I use bb.warn("foo") ) | 18:25 |
| yates | ok | 18:25 |
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| yates | will the "install" command (commonly used in a do_install()) overwrite a destinaion file if it already exists? | 19:42 |
| yates | nm. man is my friend | 19:43 |
| yates | i thought that was a yocto utility | 19:43 |
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| rburton | nope, standard gnu | 19:44 |
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| yates | i suspect my project state is hosed and that's why i'm not getting my file inserted properly | 19:53 |
| yates | how do i force a total rebuild of everything for my image? | 19:53 |
| yates | e.g., should i rm -fR build/tmp ? | 19:53 |
| kergoth | i wipe tmp at least 20 times a day. doesn't hurt anything. most of it is pulled back from sstate again anyway | 19:54 |
| kergoth | no need to even hesitate | 19:54 |
| yates | can i trust that sstate is consistent? | 19:55 |
| yates | did you mean build/sstate-cache? | 19:56 |
| kergoth | yes, and yes | 19:57 |
| yates | alright.. | 19:57 |
| kergoth | sstate failure mode is generally a rebuild from scratch. that is, it' much, much, much more likely to rebuild from scratch than to incorrectly use existing sstate | 19:57 |
| yates | hmm. | 19:58 |
| kergoth | pretty rare to need to rebuild from scratch manually, though it is occasionally useful, and is easy to do. bitbake -C fetch somerecipe will build it from scratch if it's not already been built, bitbake --no-setscene will build *everything* from scrach after wiping tmp | 19:58 |
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| yates | ok | 20:00 |
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| kroon | Hmm, isn't capabilities set on files in do_install() preserved to when the package is installed ? | 20:06 |
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| rburton | kroon: no extended attributes survive any packaging format (in any distribution) | 20:14 |
| kroon | rburton: aha | 20:15 |
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| khem | n | 20:37 |
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| yates | my kernel module recipe is bombing in the do_compile. it looks like it's not grabbing the source file from the proper place in my repository (but the SRCURI looks right). where (in the tmp/ dir) do i look for where it is unpackted to? | 22:05 |
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| yates | is it tmp/MACH/pn/pv-pr/module/ ? | 22:08 |
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| kergoth | yates: see oe-core/meta/conf/bitbake.conf | 22:11 |
| rburton | yates: well, tmp/work/machine/pn/pv-pr/ | 22:17 |
| rburton | that's WORKDIR | 22:17 |
| rburton | files are copied into there, tarballs unpacked | 22:17 |
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