| rburton | yates: comedy, we fixed that back in 2018 | 00:09 |
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| rburton | yates: there's a patch in matchbox-wm, top commit | 00:10 |
| khem | yates: rburton it seems you need to add -lm to LDFLAGS LIBMB_LIBS does not seem to be right place | 00:20 |
| khem | RP:I sent a v3 of go patches, v2 has some shortcomings that showed up on local world build + Ross's comment | 00:21 |
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| khem | RP: it seems kernel 5.0 is crashing | 01:26 |
| khem | http://ix.io/1CQp | 01:26 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to get static library in sdk? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43068885/how-to-get-static-library-in-sdk> | 05:07 |
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| Holk | Is there a way to "package feed" the SDK generated by Yocto? | 07:23 |
| Holk | Insted of exporting the big SDK package. Can I somehow distribute it with yum or apt-get? | 07:23 |
| LetoThe2nd | Holk: there shuold be nothing that actvely forbits it, but we do not have a packaging mechanism for the sdk/esdk artifacts at this time. | 07:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | Holk: OTOH, it becomes pretty complicated then to install multiple sdks | 07:32 |
| Holk | I see | 07:32 |
| Holk | Do you think its possible? | 07:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | you either end up with massive naming duplication, or clashes | 07:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | possible, sure. | 07:33 |
| Holk | But not recommended? :P | 07:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | well, define recommended. lets say, obviously nobody had a usecase for it until now that was so important that it was actually done | 07:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | Holk: one thing to think about is that you basically have, in the worst case, a sdk for each machine-distro-image triplet that you work on | 07:35 |
| LetoThe2nd | Holk: so its not "the SDK" that you would package, but a multitude | 07:36 |
| Holk | Well since there is no official support I guess I will have a hard time convincing my boss its a good idea | 07:37 |
| Holk | It was just a thought I had the other day | 07:38 |
| Holk | Our project wants to distribute the SDK to other sites which are in other countries and they thing the SDK blob is too big | 07:38 |
| LetoThe2nd | Holk: well, based on what do you think that a packaged sdk would be smaller? | 07:40 |
| LetoThe2nd | it would still need to contain the same thinks, so it would merely be like some shrinkwrap for easier shipping/installing. | 07:41 |
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| Holk | I personally dont have a problem with the size. Its just the management spitting out the word simple and cheap in every sentense and now I have to come up with some kind of solution | 07:42 |
| Holk | Thanks for you time LetoThe2nd | 07:43 |
| Holk | your* | 07:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | Holk: you basically have three sizes. 1) toolchain only. small, but doesn give you the benefits of libraries etc. matching the image. 2) sdk: mid-size, offers toolchain and everything to compile for a given target. 3) esdk: biggest, offers the full-blown shbang to do OE development for a given target | 07:43 |
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| klemen | Hi everyone | 09:26 |
| jofr | I don't thing everyone is currently online/active | 09:26 |
| jofr | But hi! | 09:26 |
| klemen | hehe :D | 09:26 |
| klemen | I'm having some problems with building a 4.4 kernel with thud 2.6.1 | 09:27 |
| klemen | is 4.4 unsupported? | 09:27 |
| klemen | I can't upgrade my kernel, due to nonexistant drivers | 09:27 |
| klemen | I'm using the default poky distro | 09:28 |
| klemen | I'm using this kernel: github.com/rockchip-linux/kernel | 09:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | klemen: please define "problems" (optimally by providing the logs in a pastebin) | 09:31 |
| klemen | LetoThe2nd, just a second, let me start the build | 09:32 |
| klemen | it's taking a bit longer than expected | 09:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | we're in no hurry :) | 09:42 |
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| klemen | LetoThe2nd, here's the output: https://pastebin.com/xcmjisuP | 09:51 |
| klemen | I should say, that I had success with building the same kernel with rocko 2.4.4 | 09:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | klemen: hm | 09:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | hard to say, but i'd guess that 4.4 breaks with the new gcc | 09:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | klemen: you could try to nail gcc down to something older | 09:54 |
| klemen | LetoThe2nd, I see.. how can I do that? | 09:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | klemen: just checked, its actually not that simple. sumo came with gcc7, thud with gcc8, and no secondary choices for both | 09:56 |
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| LetoThe2nd | klemen: yet this is fixed in the LTS of 4.4: https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.4.145 | 09:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | klemen: so thats your answer | 09:57 |
| klemen | LetoThe2nd, so I just upgrade to 4.4.145 and I'll be fine? :-) | 09:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | klemen: if that maybe-frankenkernel updates easily to 4.4.145 or newer, then yes. | 09:59 |
| klemen | LetoThe2nd, okay. thank you for your help! :-) | 10:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | klemen: actually https://github.com/rockchip-linux/kernel/blob/release-4.4/Makefile doesn't look that bad. | 10:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | so my guess is that just the layer is badly maintained. | 10:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | klemen: have fun then. | 10:01 |
| klemen | LetoThe2nd, will do, thanks :-) | 10:01 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How can i add 'GTK+3' in my toolchain (Yocto SDK) <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55060773/how-can-i-add-gtk3-in-my-toolchain-yocto-sdk> | 10:08 |
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| Tamis | in multilib configuration the variables can only be MACHINEOVERRIDES dependent? Cannot be dependent from TUNE? | 10:15 |
| Tamis | if I want a variable to have different value in 32 and 64 bit configuration. The only I found is the MACHINEOVERRIDES which adds a "common" suffix to the MACHINE variable | 10:17 |
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| wildwillie | Hi, I have another newbie question but I'm not sure how to phrase it. When i install for example : fsl-image-qt5 I get two directories with fonts : /usr/share/fonts and /usr/lib/fonts. For my image i need the /usr/lib/fonts but i cannot figure out which recipe that adds it, so that i can port it to my image. I'm using qt 5.6.2 so fonts should be included as I understand it(removed in 5.7) | 13:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | wildwillie: oe-pkgutil should be able to tell you which recipe provides a certain path | 13:06 |
| Tamis | rsync command is not included in HOSTTOOLS. should this be included in bitbake.conf or change the recipes that execute that? | 13:14 |
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| Tamis | I mean do we care to see rsync upstream in HOSTTOOLS? | 13:17 |
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| wildwillie | LetoThe2nd: Did you mean oe-pkgdata-util? | 13:20 |
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| LetoThe2nd | wildwillie: yeah | 13:22 |
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| klemen | Hi, I'm having some problems getting the console output on HDMI. I'm building core-image-base with poky thud 2.6.1 | 13:37 |
| klemen | I do get the yocto project splash screen | 13:37 |
| klemen | so HDMI seems to work | 13:37 |
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| rizzitello | hi all is there a way to force uninative ? the build system doesn't like my glibc version | 13:48 |
| wildwillie | LetoThe2nd: I ended up forcing it to use another font dir since i dont need that many anway. But thanks that is very usefull script!! | 13:57 |
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| rburton | rizzitello: INHERIT += "uninative" | 14:13 |
| rizzitello | in the local.conf? | 14:13 |
| rburton | rizzitello: or your distro | 14:13 |
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| wildwillie | Is it possible to use some sort of dummy server for X11? That is entirely blank. I was here asking about using custom themes a few days ago, and I have realized that it would be even better to have nothing. My qt application will launch at boot but takes 1-2 seconds in which the desktop will show | 14:30 |
| wildwillie | I'm using the default theme atm but it feels unnecessery | 14:30 |
| rburton | sato has logic to not switch to X until it is ready | 14:31 |
| rburton | where ready is up to you | 14:31 |
| rburton | not sure how a dummy X server will help | 14:31 |
| rburton | assuming you want to see something at some point | 14:32 |
| wildwillie | maybe not the best idea, i just want it to be black until my application boots up | 14:32 |
| rburton | how will a dummy x server help? | 14:32 |
| wildwillie | If i have no X server i cannot start the application | 14:32 |
| rburton | how will a dummy x server help? | 14:33 |
| rburton | (you can't move apps between X servers) | 14:33 |
| rburton | what Sato used to do, but doesnt appear to right now, is start X with the novt flag so it doesn't switch the active vt on startup | 14:34 |
| rburton | so when it starts the user still sees the splash or whatever | 14:34 |
| rburton | then when sato is fully loaded, it fires a dbus signal, and the init script does a chvt | 14:35 |
| rburton | voila, splash->app without any loading | 14:35 |
| rburton | not sure why this is commented out right now, but it's not hard | 14:35 |
| wildwillie | that is exactly what i want to achieve | 14:35 |
| rburton | -novtswitch | 14:35 |
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| wildwillie | rburton: Sorry but what sato recipe had this function? | 14:47 |
| wildwillie | All i can find is theme settings | 14:55 |
| rburton | its spread around. the xserver-nodm init script used to wait but its now commented out. your app needs to send a dbus signal, matchbox-desktop does that | 14:55 |
| wildwillie | # Required-Start: $local_fs $remote_fs dbus in combo with matchbox-desktop | 14:58 |
| wildwillie | Alright thanks again, I'll poke around a bit :) | 14:58 |
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| yates | rburton: ok, the mbwm now shows compile-time compositing is enabled, but i STILL am not getting transparency. is there something further to do, e.g., some command line option to give? | 15:17 |
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| yates | "mbwm --help" does not show any composite enable options | 15:19 |
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| yates | rburton: ? | 15:29 |
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| yates | anyone? | 16:26 |
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| likewise | On sumo, with reproducible builds, I (still) see that the .pyc is not used. python3 -v -c "import time" gives "bytecode is stale for 'encodings'". Resulting in slow python execution. | 16:36 |
| likewise | This is for a read-only filesystem. | 16:36 |
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| rburton | yates: are you sure your app is actually doing transparency correctly | 17:24 |
| rburton | like have you seen it work with another WM | 17:24 |
| rburton | of course mbwm basically fullscreens the windows so not sure what your expecting to be transparent | 17:26 |
| rburton | popups? | 17:27 |
| khem | [ | 17:28 |
| kergoth | Hmm, anyone with experience withd evtool upgrade? I'm getting "unable to find revision ... in branch master even from upstream" with the new srcrev, even though i explicitly specified a non-master branch on the command-line | 17:31 |
| kergoth | thud, not master | 17:31 |
| kergoth | devtool, that is | 17:31 |
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| yates | rburton: yes, exact same code works with transparency under fedora | 18:06 |
| yates | i think fullscreen is orthogonal to transparent.. | 18:06 |
| yates | but what i'm doing is creating a widget with rounded corners where the corners show the main window's background | 18:07 |
| yates | The phrase "rounded corners" does not really represent the full scope of what needed to be done. A more complete explanation would be "Make a widget with a gradient background with rounded corners which are transparent and show the main frame's background through the corners, when the main frame's background is itself a gradient." | 18:09 |
| yates | so you can't cheat with tricks like setting the widget's background color to the parent window's background color.. | 18:09 |
| rburton | oh in the window itself | 18:14 |
| rburton | thats nothing to do with window manager level transparency | 18:14 |
| rburton | unles the widget is a popup window | 18:14 |
| rburton | i'd look at what wx is doing | 18:15 |
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| rburton | ie is the wx you build using gtk2 or something stupid | 18:15 |
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| ikkysleepy | Can someone with a Raspberry PI 3 B+ test an image for me? I have it working fine with RPI 3 b, but someone said the image doesn't work well with RPI 3 B+. I don't have any issue with this on my RPI 3 B+. The issue is related to bcm2835_sdhost . | 18:29 |
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| psrcode | RP: finally my problem with the ??= PACKAGECONFIG yesterday was a fluke on my end, I had a rogue PACKAGECONFIG += "manpages" inside my bbappend for tools. | 19:19 |
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| halstead | armpit, RP, rburton AB is ready for new work. | 19:44 |
| kergoth | we sho uld really stop using ??= and ?= for PACKAGECONFIG, it's just way too error prone | 19:47 |
| kergoth | we shouldn't support setting it globally anyway | 19:47 |
| kergoth | anyone who wants to adjust it uses recipe overrides | 19:47 |
| armpit | halstead, thanks | 19:53 |
| halstead | :) | 19:53 |
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| psrcode | kergoth: I wasn't expecting the += to nuke the ??= ... anyway might be a rookie mistake | 20:30 |
| kergoth | += is an immediate operation, using it sets it globally. then later on when the recipe is parsed, the defaults arent applied, because it was already set globally. we shuld just stop using ?=/??= for it in the recipes and it'd be a non-issue. can still use _append/_prepend/_remove with the pn- override | 20:31 |
| kergoth | but yeah, it's a common enough mistake with variables of that sort. IMAGE_INSTALL has the same problem in some cases | 20:31 |
| kergoth | which is part of why CORE_IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL exists | 20:31 |
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| RP | halstead: thanks! | 22:22 |
| RP | psrcode: ah, glad you figured it out at least... | 22:22 |
| RP | zeddii: thanks for the patches, I'll put them in for testing. Looks like we have a regression with the kernel-devsrc patch | 22:22 |
| zeddii | oh ? which arch ? I can test it here tonight before I go poof for a week. | 22:23 |
| kergoth | i hate it when projects never merge back their tags to master. i know why they don't, the overhead is a pain, but it's still pretty irritating at times. have to muck with merge-base, can't make accurate use of git-describe, etc | 22:31 |
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| RP | zeddii: qemumips: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/60/builds/372/steps/7/logs/step1b | 22:40 |
| RP | zeddii: its with 4.9 | 22:41 |
| RP | er, 4.19 | 22:41 |
| RP | zeddii: also qemumips64: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/74/builds/376/steps/7/logs/step1b | 22:41 |
| RP | zeddii: and edgrouter: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/62/builds/376/steps/7/logs/step1b | 22:42 |
| RP | zeddii: I think you just need to tweak the mips syscall install you added to fail gracefully | 22:43 |
| RP | zeddii: I suspect I can sort it if you're out of time | 22:45 |
| zeddii | damnit. I meant to make them all graceful. I meant to loop back to that. | 22:49 |
| zeddii | I should have time. will send you an email at the end of my night here, to let you know either way. | 22:49 |
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| zeddii | RP: yah. I see it now, will send a patch. leave that one with me | 22:51 |
| * zeddii scolds himself. I thought those were around in the old releases, should have checked. | 22:51 | |
| RP | zeddii: its easily done | 22:52 |
| RP | zeddii: my current plan is to go 5.0 everywhere except for qemuarm and qemuarm64 and to switch qemuarm to the v7 for M3 | 22:53 |
| RP | zeddii: that would then let us figure out 5.0 for qemuarm* for 2.7 final | 22:53 |
| RP | zeddii: worst case they'd have 4.19 | 22:53 |
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| zeddii | agreed. | 23:05 |
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