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yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Is there a command to got to WORDIR of a recipe? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55932632/is-there-a-command-to-got-to-wordir-of-a-recipe> | 07:15 |
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JaMa | cd? :) | 07:16 |
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RP | armpit: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/20190430-13/testresults/testresult-report.txt - success with ltp! | 07:27 |
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JoeR | Hello #Yoctoians. | 09:28 |
JoeR | Does anything exist that spits out a docker file for a toolchain? | 09:29 |
JoeR | I currently deploy onto a build server, but there's always a need for clients (of varying platforms) to also have a toolchain. Spitting out something for Docker would be neat. | 09:31 |
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JoeR | Thought I might ask my question again, I don't know if that's bad practice though?.. | 10:59 |
JoeR | Does anything (recipe?) exist that spits out a docker file for a toolchain? I currently deploy onto a build server, but there's always a need for clients (of varying platforms) to also have a toolchain. Spitting out something for Docker would be neat. | 11:00 |
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RP | JoeR: The system can build standalone toolchains in the form of the sdk (bitbake <image> -c populate_sdk). Its not a docker image. | 11:37 |
JoeR | RP: Yeah, that's what I do now. | 11:37 |
JoeR | It gets spat out of Jenkins and forms each new "release" of toolchain for the dev team. | 11:37 |
JoeR | I'd like to remove the need for the one build server though, so I want to give that toolchain to the devs for their client machines. | 11:38 |
JoeR | The client machines are a bit varied and I have no control over them. Being able to give them a docker image would resolve that issue. | 11:38 |
JoeR | So I'm left creating that from the toolchain as its spat out. So I wondered if this was something that could be done already. Or whether it'd be worth doing it as a class in its own right. | 11:39 |
RP | JoeR: I'm not convinced since they likely have other things on their machines alongside the toolchain and your docker image won't contain those things | 11:39 |
JoeR | Exactly. I want a one stop clean toolchain for their cross builds. Isolated from whatever else they get up to. | 11:39 |
JoeR | They can still have whatever they want on their machine, but builds are remoted to their spun-up docker image. | 11:40 |
JoeR | I'd like to get rid of my "build server" too, just have it as something quite simple and just have a docker image for the toolchain. It hosts other key bits of tooling that way. | 11:41 |
JoeR | It's the wild west for client installs (windows, mac, ubuntu & mints over a five year set of releases) | 11:42 |
Tartarus | RP: btw, I'm updating vim right now to latest and folding in the locale thing, I should post it in a few hours | 11:51 |
RP | Tartarus: sounds good thanks. I seem to have my hands full with various failures... | 11:53 |
Tartarus | The life of the head maintainer, never dull :) | 11:55 |
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zeddii | RP: there's some seriously funky stuff with all the kernel package manipulations that prevent a kernel-image postinstall script from working. I'm lost in it all at the moment. Hopefully I'll have a coherent answer by end of day. | 15:03 |
RP | Tartarus: I think my head probably does need maintenance ;-) | 15:04 |
Tartarus | ha | 15:05 |
* zeddii is questioning his sanity as well today. | 15:07 | |
RP | someone needs to take elfutils's makefile tests away from me | 15:08 |
zeddii | eee. | 15:08 |
zeddii | "It's just a makefile", I say that everytime I wade into a perf issue. then I just want to curl up and become a stone mason. | 15:09 |
RP | whoever thought silently continuing if it can't find its modules was a good thing was wrong... | 15:09 |
zeddii | heh. | 15:09 |
RP | zeddii: practical real world work is sometimes attractive | 15:10 |
zeddii | I can chose from two postinst failures. one, the postinst doesn't make it into the package. the other, rootfs fails to assemble since the package isn't available to the rootfs .. but it does have the postinst in it :D | 15:10 |
* zeddii nods. | 15:10 | |
zeddii | maybe more coffee will clarify things for me. | 15:10 |
RP | I should just revert the elfutils ptests | 15:11 |
zeddii | I'd vote for that option :D | 15:11 |
JPEW | Is elfutils even used much? | 15:12 |
RP | JPEW: I was just more worried if there was some hidden issue with prelink or something nasty | 15:12 |
RP | turns out its just broken | 15:12 |
RP | (the tests) | 15:13 |
JPEW | huh, I guess it's used more often that I would have gussed | 15:13 |
RP | JPEW: we use the lib for chrpath and a few other key things | 15:14 |
JPEW | You can apparently even compile systemd with elfutils support... although I shudder to think what that might be used for | 15:14 |
RP | JPEW: a lot of the tracing stuff sits on top of it too | 15:14 |
JPEW | Ah makese sense | 15:14 |
zeddii | the problem with instrumenting package.bbclass .. is the savage amount of rebuilding. | 15:15 |
zeddii | well, that and I'm clueless about it all :D | 15:15 |
zeddii | I'm almost convinced that the emit_pkgdata needs to check PKG_ before it goes and tries to process postinsts | 15:16 |
RP | zeddii: there could be a problem like that quite easily | 15:20 |
zeddii | yah. something is going on right in that area. I'll flail around and see what I can break :D | 15:21 |
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* armpit zeddii a stone mason... watch out for flying stones | 15:27 | |
* zeddii would break some windows | 15:27 | |
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Tartarus | RP: So, uh, mild apologies for bringing up the BB_MIN_VER thing again over in http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2019-May/199442.html | 16:01 |
RP | Tartarus: I really don't want to bump the version every 5 mins, we need to get better about the APIs | 16:06 |
RP | (the min version) | 16:06 |
RP | Tartarus: I did notice, its a frsutrating the issue didn't get properly fixed, I thought it had been :/ | 16:07 |
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Tartarus | RP: I agree the vim direction is the wrong way to go :) | 16:22 |
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JPEW | RP, Tartarus: Sorry :( Looking at it now | 16:22 |
armpit | yeah, lets use "Notes" | 16:25 |
RP | armpit: we still have selftest problems btw | 16:25 |
RP | armpit: not least we installed puthon3-cairo on the AB with me not realising pybootchart is py2 | 16:26 |
RP | armpit: probably need a bug to migrate it to py3 | 16:26 |
armpit | yep | 16:26 |
RP | armpit: other tests failed too, but I had gcc9 in there so it was a mess | 16:26 |
RP | (packageconfig tests) | 16:26 |
armpit | does anyone us pybootchart? | 16:26 |
RP | armpit: it is useful for looking at task timings | 16:27 |
armpit | k | 16:27 |
armpit | its sad the need for cairo is not listed in the manual test | 16:27 |
armpit | RP, what about the other patches removing things that are already done @ runtime or selftest? | 16:28 |
RP | armpit: need to go carefully through those again. I thought there was a dependency | 16:29 |
armpit | k | 16:30 |
armpit | I don't me the sdk one.. that need to be redone | 16:30 |
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RP | kergoth: when you're around I wouldn't mind a second opinion on the bitbake header/license changes | 16:33 |
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kergoth | it's fine with me. also good riddance to the editor modelines. we're using standard indenting conventions anyway, and even if we werent, editorconfig would be better | 16:34 |
RP | kergoth: my feelings too :) | 16:34 |
RP | kergoth: going to try and standardise on the SPDX license headers. The dilemma is recipes :/ | 16:35 |
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kergoth | https://github.com/mikeal/self-care/issues | 17:00 |
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erakis | Hi, sorry for the novice question. For a init script (init.d) what is the best method to determine whether the service is working or not. The skeleton use "pidof -x xxx" but versus using a PIDFILE ? | 18:53 |
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erakis | working=running | 18:57 |
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bl4ckb0ne | is it possible to use the same bin_package reciepe for multiple rpms ? | 19:00 |
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LetoThe2nd | bl4ckb0ne: you mean, one recipe that provides several packages? | 19:18 |
bl4ckb0ne | i have several rpms from third party that needs to be extracted on the rootfs | 19:19 |
bl4ckb0ne | and I dont want to make one recipe for every one of them | 19:20 |
bl4ckb0ne | i came upon the bin_package class that looks nice, but if i understand it correctly, i need to feed directly the rpm | 19:20 |
bl4ckb0ne | my 3rd party rpms are on a git repo | 19:20 |
LetoThe2nd | bl4ckb0ne: you'd probably have to replicate the bin_package logic and make it work with a list of packages instead of a single one | 19:20 |
LetoThe2nd | bl4ckb0ne: i am not aware of an out-of-the-box way for doing that. | 19:21 |
bl4ckb0ne | currently doing that | 19:21 |
bl4ckb0ne | but I encounter a lot of warnings from "QA" | 19:21 |
bl4ckb0ne | can I shut them all at once ? | 19:21 |
bl4ckb0ne | I already have `INSANE_SKIP_${PN} += "already-stripped ldflags arch staticdev"` | 19:22 |
LetoThe2nd | bl4ckb0ne: nothing to add besides whats mentioned in https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.6.2/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#ref-classes-insane | 19:23 |
bl4ckb0ne | ty | 19:26 |
bl4ckb0ne | alright, down to RDEPENDS trouble now | 19:26 |
bl4ckb0ne | it works! thanks LetoThe2nd | 19:30 |
LetoThe2nd | have fun | 19:36 |
bl4ckb0ne | ty | 19:37 |
bl4ckb0ne | it feels so wrong though | 19:37 |
bl4ckb0ne | i feel that yocto has this need to compile everything, and here i'm just forcing prebuilt stuff | 19:37 |
kergoth | it's certainly not ideal, but if you're dealing with vendors you don't always have a choice | 19:39 |
kergoth | been there, done that | 19:39 |
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bl4ckb0ne | its the intel compiler | 19:42 |
bl4ckb0ne | its strange intel doesnt provide it | 19:42 |
bl4ckb0ne | oh well, now I have another dependency missing | 19:49 |
bl4ckb0ne | > nothing provides ld-linux-k1om.so.2()(64bit) needed by icc | 19:49 |
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bl4ckb0ne | can I completely ignore the dependencies of one recipe ? | 20:15 |
* RP wonders if he should complain at himself on the mailing list about his broken patches | 20:29 | |
JPEW | RP: I find a stern talking to in person gets the point across much better | 20:30 |
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JPEW | RP, Tartarus: I send the OE core patch that I beleive will fix rm_work with older bitbake. I tested with 1.40 before the hash equive changes were added to bitbake. | 20:36 |
bl4ckb0ne | https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2015-November/027597.html | 20:36 |
bl4ckb0ne | im clearly going the wrong way | 20:36 |
RP | JPEW: just saw that, looks good thanks | 20:37 |
JPEW | np. Really sorry I forgot about it | 20:37 |
JPEW | I think we'll need that "backported" to warrior also? | 20:38 |
RP | JPEW: yes, we need armpit for that, unless he wants to tell me just to do it | 20:42 |
JPEW | RP: I'll ping him after the patch is on master.... I'll remember this time :) | 20:43 |
RP | JPEW: I get tempted to merge obvious things like this, then things break in weird and wonderful ways | 20:44 |
armpit | remembering is something for the young | 20:45 |
JPEW | Ya.... thats hard. I suspect that we will *probably* be OK doing the proper QA on this one. AFAIK, there has only been the one complaint | 20:45 |
JPEW | armpit: Indeed. I must be getting older... it keeps getting harder | 20:46 |
armpit | RP just don't get into a flame war with yourself ; ) | 20:47 |
RP | armpit: that could get entertaining | 20:47 |
armpit | I wonder if that is covered in the code of conduct ? | 20:48 |
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* moto-timo envisions an RP<->RP flamewar | 21:18 | |
* moto-timo thinks it would be a top selling video game | 21:19 | |
Crofton | like RP on a mountain bike racing RP on a dirt bike | 21:21 |
RP | Crofton: RP on a road bicycle had a top speed of 41.4mph earlier this evening... | 21:38 |
armpit | hu, the RP flamewar would do 60 mph | 21:39 |
RP | armpit: not sure the dirt bike's gearing would do 60mph, mountain bike certainly wouldn't | 21:40 |
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JPEW | RP: How did you hit 40 on a bicycle? | 21:57 |
RP | JPEW: small hill, got to lead the group down it tonight :) | 21:58 |
RP | JPEW: record is about 49mph, that was a bigger hill! | 21:58 |
JPEW | RP: Crazy. Last time I went that fast (years ago) I braked poorly in the wet and went skidding on my side for about 20 feet. It wasn't fun | 21:59 |
JPEW | And by "that fast" I think I was *maybe* doing 35 | 21:59 |
RP | JPEW: I probably shouldn't mention it was wet tonight, we'd been warned it was greasy and that was 40mph into a corner. Braking when doing this would be potentially problematic | 22:00 |
JPEW | Ya, I knew I was in toruble when my backwheel started passing me.... that said, I wish I could bike every day still :( | 22:01 |
RP | JPEW: I was surprised it was that speed, only saw it from the trace afterwards from the garmin | 22:01 |
RP | JPEW: wheels overtaking you tends not to end well. Back wheel of the mountain bike going over my head on Saturday was one of those moments :/ | 22:02 |
RP | This is making me sound crazy, it wasn't that bad, I'm sure I'm exaggerating :) | 22:02 |
RP | JPEW: I do the cycling to get me away from the computer and get some exercise | 22:03 |
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armpit | warrior landed.. I am behind | 22:41 |
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