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| mccc | Hi, is upgrading yocto releases an all-or-nothing thing? I use a few layers that don't have warrior yet (meta-iot-cloud, meta-mender, meta-raspberrypi, meta-wpe). Do I need to wait for them all? | 03:36 |
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| khem | JPEW: bummer | 04:42 |
| khem | mccc:no use master of those layers | 04:43 |
| mccc | khem: Thank you! | 04:43 |
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| Chaser | Hello, a general question regarding GNU Makefile. Is there any difference between the following 1) FOO=bar make target 2). make target FOO=bar | 09:41 |
| mihai | Chaser, 1) is environment variable, 2) is argument variable | 09:49 |
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| T_UNIX | hi | 09:58 |
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| Chaser | mihai: ah true thanks. | 10:22 |
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| bluca | hi - are there instructions available anywhere on how to reproduce locally the builds done on autobuilder.yoctoproject.org ? | 10:26 |
| kanavin_ | bluca, not really, but you can start with http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/yocto-autobuilder2/about/ and http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/yocto-autobuilder-helper/about/ | 10:36 |
| bluca | thanks - just trying to repro a build failure with a patch that doesn't happen with the distro I work on | 10:37 |
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| T_UNIX | question about mesa (packaging): enabling certain drivers (i.e. `etnaviv imx`) via PACKAGECONFIG results in identical copies of swrast (mega-driver?) in `${prefix}/${libdir}/dri/` | 11:29 |
| T_UNIX | is that intended? | 11:30 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Yocto "Failed to run qemu: Could not initialize SDL(x11 not > available)" <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56237078/yocto-failed-to-run-qemu-could-not-initialize-sdlx11-not-available> | 11:39 |
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| naknick | hi. I tried to add python3-pyelftools-native recipe to yocto. I added it under CORE_IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL and added BBLAYERS =+ "${METADIR}/meta-sca" in bblayers.conf - but I'm getting the following error: | 14:10 |
| naknick | ERROR: Task do_populate_sdk in /home/user/workspace_agl/meta-agl/meta-agl/recipes-core/images/agl-image-minimal.bb rdepends upon non-existent task do_package_write_rpm in /home/user/workspace_agl/meta-sca/recipes-python/python-pyelftools-native/python3-pyelftools-native_0.25.bb | 14:10 |
| naknick | link to the recipe: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/96664/ - help someone? | 14:11 |
| LetoThe2nd | naknick: adding a -native recipe to an image is rather nonsensical | 14:11 |
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| LetoThe2nd | naknick: a -native recipe basically makes only sense as a dependency, be it a direct or an indirect one | 14:14 |
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| naknick | LetoThe2nd: lets make it simple. I want to add 'scons' package (which you can get by apt-get) and 'pyelftools' module to python3 - how should I do it? | 14:15 |
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| LetoThe2nd | naknick: first, this is not related to apt-get in any way whatsoever | 14:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | naknick: and where do you want which package? on the building host, or on the target? | 14:17 |
| naknick | I know. I'm talking about the parallel way under Ubuntu | 14:17 |
| naknick | on the target of course | 14:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | naknick: do not talk about parallel unrelated ways, it is just confusing | 14:17 |
| naknick | ok | 14:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | naknick: so, if you want something on the target, it is not a -native package | 14:18 |
| naknick | so should I use this one? https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/32221/ | 14:18 |
| naknick | and this one: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/4846/ | 14:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | naknick: yep. if you want pyelftools on the target, then the first link you pasted is the way to go. at least technically, i have no idea how well the layer "meta-measured" is maintained. | 14:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | naknick: the python-scons recipe shouldbe fine. | 14:20 |
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| naknick | LetoThe2nd - OK. If I don't have meta-measured layer under yocto-root folder - how should I add it? | 14:21 |
| sanderer | You get a copy and add the layer to your conf/bblayers.conf | 14:25 |
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| sanderer | usually by cloning the layer with git into a local directory | 14:26 |
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| sanderer | naknick: don't forget the add the layers meta-measured depends on as well | 14:29 |
| sanderer | though it'll probably notify you of any missing package | 14:29 |
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| LetoThe2nd | naknick: just like any other layer too. you look at the layer index, get its repository url, clone it, checkout the branch that matches your poky version, and add it to bblayers.conf | 14:36 |
| naknick | sanderer - it only depends on openembedded-core | 14:39 |
| RP | kanavin_: any ideas on https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/15/builds/852 ? | 14:39 |
| sanderer | naknick: then you should add that to your bblayers.conf as well | 14:40 |
| naknick | LetoThe2nd - thanks. this is what I did (with git clone) - but I wasn't sure that's the correct way. thanks | 14:40 |
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| kanavin_ | RP: looking into it | 14:51 |
| armpit | YPTM: Armin is on | 15:01 |
| vmeson | YPTM: Randy joined | 15:01 |
| * RP must have the wrong number | 15:01 | |
| armpit | https://zoom.us/j/990892712 | 15:02 |
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| JPEW | YPTM: Joshua Watt here | 15:05 |
| JPEW | I'm a little confused, I thought there wasn't going to be a second YPTM this month....? | 15:06 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Bitbake: How to list all recipe and append files used in an image? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32850160/bitbake-how-to-list-all-recipe-and-append-files-used-in-an-image> | 15:10 |
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| JPEW | Hmm, why does enabling multiconfig cause bitbake to parse every time I run it? | 15:50 |
| RP | JPEW: it shouldn't | 15:52 |
| RP | JPEW: the reproducibility test looks useful btw, thanks | 15:53 |
| JPEW | RP: it's a start :) | 15:53 |
| RP | JPEW: yes, and gives us an idea where problems have crept in (perl and debug section ordering) | 15:54 |
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| JPEW | Is there an equivalent to "bitbake -e" (with no recipe, just the base config) for a multiconfig? e.g. "bitbake -e multiconfig:foo" | 17:40 |
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| scottrif | Is anyone active in the NPM Fetcher code? I am wondering how up-to-date this wiki page is - https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/TipsAndTricks/NPM | 17:46 |
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| RP | JPEW: hmm, possibly not | 18:08 |
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| RP | scottrif: someone sent patches recently but I know little about it | 18:08 |
| scottrif | RP: I am just trying to see if that wiki page is up to date. And if not, maybe someone could describe the changes. | 18:09 |
| RP | scottrif: I don't know for sure but I don't think its changed much if at all recently | 18:12 |
| JPEW | I think I must be doing something wrong with multiconfig... it's *so* slow... bitbake spends minutes "Parsing recipes" before it starts to build... AFAICT, it's fully utilizing the parsing cache | 18:12 |
| scottrif | RP: Okay - thanks. I will assume it is accurate for today's YP version. | 18:13 |
| RP | JPEW: then where is it spending time? | 18:13 |
| RP | JPEW: BuildStarted events? | 18:13 |
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| JPEW | Not specifically sure.... I ran with -DDD and all I really see is a stream of "EXCLUDE FROM WORLD" messages while it is working | 18:16 |
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| RP | JPEW: does that mean its somewhere in taskdata or runqueue building the runqueue? | 18:23 |
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| RP | ah, the exclude from world is loading the data from the parsing cache | 18:24 |
| JPEW | I think its even before that.... its loading the parsing cache from disk (I think) | 18:24 |
| JPEW | right | 18:24 |
| RP | how big is the parsing cache? | 18:24 |
| JPEW | ~500 MB | 18:24 |
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| RP | JPEW: do single builds of each of the multiconfigs as a single entity take very long? | 18:24 |
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| RP | My parsing cache files for poky are 20MB | 18:25 |
| JPEW | Oh.... hmm | 18:25 |
| RP | JPEW: lots of layers? Extra cached metadata? | 18:26 |
| JPEW | I'm just running "bitbake -e core-image-minimal" at this point | 18:26 |
| RP | how many multiconfigs | 18:26 |
| RP | ? | 18:26 |
| JPEW | 1 multiconfig... counting laters, j/s | 18:26 |
| JPEW | *counting layers | 18:27 |
| RP | 1 mc shouldn't do that | 18:27 |
| RP | I've done this with 8 | 18:27 |
| JPEW | We have poky + meta-gplv2 + all meta-openembedded + a few BSP layers | 18:27 |
| RP | that doesn't sound like 20 -> 500 MB | 18:28 |
| JPEW | Indeed. | 18:28 |
| RP | have you tried cleaning the cache out the way? | 18:28 |
| JPEW | Ya | 18:28 |
| RP | try dropping the layers, see if that helps? | 18:29 |
| JPEW | Ah, looks like it might be due to our egregious path lengths: | 18:30 |
| JPEW | $ strings bb_cache.dat.970655f7939278e71b469f38eab47355 | wc -c | 18:30 |
| JPEW | 422344027 | 18:30 |
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| RP | JPEW: I'm surprised/sad that has such a poor effect on our cache | 18:32 |
| JPEW | err, this also weird, it looks like the same file is showing up in multiple places that it doesn't exists in the cache | 18:33 |
| RP | JPEW: that is less unusual, we have to cache that we looked for a file which didn't exist | 18:34 |
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| RP | (in case it exists next time) | 18:34 |
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| JPEW | Ah, ok. I think this is compounding then, we have ~30 layers (which is *way* too many), long paths, and adding the multiconfig put it over the edge | 18:38 |
| JPEW | Oddly, without multiconfig the cache is only 99MB. I would have exepected it to only double with 1 multiconfig | 18:39 |
| RP | That is odd :/ | 18:39 |
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| RP | kanavin_: new problem: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/23/builds/850 :( | 18:43 |
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| JPEW | Ok, something is definetly weird about mutilconfig parsing caching: https://pastebin.com/Kdck6UjX | 19:07 |
| rewitt | I'm seeing a problem where kernel-devsrc isn't including the arch/x86/include/generated/ . Specifically the file early_ioremap.h isn't found when doing a build on the target, which should be in arch/x86/include/generated/asm/early_ioremap.h. The file is in the source tree in the work directory on the host. Based on messages, it looks like this may have caused it? 52fd2993784b4218f5df4f343e7da45d964df305 I'm | 19:11 |
| rewitt | also having to go into the source directory and manually run "make -C tools objtool" | 19:11 |
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| zeddii | rewitt: the build of objtool is expected. No binaries / tools are packaged in devsrc | 19:22 |
| rewitt | ok it looks like "make-mod-scripts_1.0" would fix the objtool problem? | 19:23 |
| zeddii | as for the missing header, we simply haven’t had anything that needed it yet, and hence it isn’t there. | 19:23 |
| zeddii | devsrc only includes needed files, therefore is lazy initialization. | 19:23 |
| rewitt | zeddii: What's the best approach then, a bbappend for kernel-devsrc? | 19:24 |
| zeddii | it depends. what are you building ? If it is common enough, and is only a header. We could take a patch to devsrc to add the header file. | 19:24 |
| rewitt | it's dpdk, but for "reasons" we're not using meta-dpdk, which of course wouldn't have the issue. | 19:26 |
| rewitt | specifically the igb_uio.ko module fails | 19:26 |
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| zeddii | interesting. I don’t see that as an invalid use, so a patch would make sense. if you copy me (bruce.ashfield@gmail.com), I can grab it for my queue. | 19:27 |
| rewitt | zeddii: Ok I'll try to put a patch together for the list, thanks | 19:28 |
| rewitt | zeddii: Would you want only the necessary header files cherrypicked for this case, or go ahead and grab all of generated? | 19:28 |
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| zeddii | was kicked out there. | 19:29 |
| rewitt | ok I'll repost: zeddii: Would you want only the necessary header files cherrypicked for this case, or go ahead and grab all of generated? | 19:29 |
| zeddii | just the one. we aren’t taking any else of it now, so I’d control the dependencies. | 19:30 |
| rewitt | zeddii: Ok got it, thanks | 19:30 |
| zeddii | it’s a slippery slope. | 19:30 |
| zeddii | we grab lots of generated files for the staging kernel dir, but not devsrc. | 19:31 |
| zeddii | rewitt: now that I think of it, I wonder if there’s a way to just regen it on target ? that would be more consistent. I just lost my chat history. what was the file again ? | 19:31 |
| rewitt | zeddii: I understand, it's a bit of a weird scenario too because nothing is actually generated, that header is checked into generated and just includes the asm-generic version | 19:31 |
| Crofton | zeddii, can we make perf use py3? | 19:32 |
| rewitt | zeddii: x86 is the only arch that has files checked into a generated directory as fars as I can tell, the other archs do not have a "generated" under include | 19:32 |
| zeddii | Crofton: .. probably ? I haven’t checked on it recently to see if all the parts are py3 safe. | 19:32 |
| Crofton | I shoudl remind you py2 is eol :) | 19:33 |
| Crofton | And stops me building images with only python3, if I install perf | 19:33 |
| zeddii | ah. my friend perf. | 19:34 |
| zeddii | rewitt: what was the header again ? I’m not seeing any generated directory in my 5.0 kernel tree. | 19:34 |
| rewitt | zeddii: The file was early_ioremap.h | 19:34 |
| zeddii | heh. thanks! | 19:34 |
| rewitt | I'm on 4.19.13 | 19:34 |
| Crofton | I suppose I should create a bug for that | 19:35 |
| JPEW | I recently found that perf looks for slang by check if /usr/include/slang.h exists..... this breaks cross-compiling if you don't have slang on the build host :( | 19:35 |
| Crofton | ouch | 19:35 |
| zeddii | perf is basically junk ;) and we force it to sort of cross build :D | 19:35 |
| zeddii | rewitt: ok. switching to 4.19. so this copy has to be safe for all kernels. Is this a stock 4.19 ?? | 19:36 |
| JPEW | The weird part about that is that there is AFAICT a pkg-config for slang, and the Makefile uses pkg-config for another package 2 lines later.... I think it's just an old anacronism | 19:36 |
| zeddii | There’s never anything non-wierd about perf’s build. | 19:37 |
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| rewitt | zeddii: It's a preempty rt kernel, but it looks like I was wrong those files aren't in the tree. *bitten by a .gitignore* | 19:40 |
| * zeddii has been there | 19:41 | |
| paulbarker | Is there any reason I wouldn't be able to use oe.utils.conditional when setting INHERIT? | 19:41 |
| rewitt | zeddii: It would then make sense to generate the headers on the target, not sure of the make command to do that. But, yeah it doesn't really make sense to put them in the devsrc since they are actually generated | 19:41 |
| zeddii | rewitt: that is the intention of the devsrc. If headers are typically generated, their dependencies are in the source we copy and then one of the targets (i.e. make prepare, etc) generate them. | 19:42 |
| zeddii | rewitt: but if it isn’t possible to generated them, it is also done that we copy both from ${B} and ${S} into devsrc, so it isn’t inconsistent to copy it if there’s no other way. | 19:42 |
| rewitt | zeddii: alright, I'll see if I can't figure out the target to generate that header file | 19:43 |
| zeddii | man, that sentence had a lot of typos | 19:43 |
| zeddii | rewitt: ping me as required. I’ll be stepping out in about 45 mins, but will be back again later in Eastern time. | 19:44 |
| rewitt | zeddii: Ok, thanks. | 19:44 |
| paulbarker | Ah damn. To answer my own question, INHERIT is expanded by bitbake before base.bbclass is included and it's base.bbclass that imports all those nice helper functions | 19:48 |
| rewitt | zeddii: Looks like modules_prepare does everything I need, which completely makes sense. This is the first time I've ever built out of tree modules on the target. :-/ | 19:57 |
| zeddii | phew! that’s the easiest answer. glad it is working so far! | 19:57 |
| rewitt | Yeah, I like when the only thing not working is my brain :) | 19:58 |
| zeddii | naw. you notice that I had no doubts that something could be missing :D It is relatively complete, but there’s always something lurking. | 19:59 |
| Crofton | zeddii, bad news, on recent Fedora perf uses py2 | 20:00 |
| zeddii | hmm. we may have to blaze the trail here :D | 20:01 |
| Crofton | better news | 20:01 |
| Crofton | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1536656 | 20:01 |
| yocti | Bug 1536656: was not found. | 20:01 |
| zeddii | yocti: shhhh | 20:03 |
| yocti | zeddii: Error: "shhhh" is not a valid command. | 20:03 |
| zeddii | crofton. cool. | 20:03 |
| * zeddii reads | 20:03 | |
| zeddii | looks like we can switch then. If you assign the bug to me, I can look into it. | 20:04 |
| Crofton | OK, I'll do that in a bit | 20:04 |
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| paulbarker | Someone need's to implement "shhhh" for yocti | 20:12 |
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| RP | hi rewitt! Nice to see you're still playing with yocto occasionally! :) | 20:22 |
| rewitt | RP: Only when they force me to ;) | 20:24 |
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| Crofton | zeddii, https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13358 | 20:28 |
| yocti | Bug 13358: normal, Undecided, ---, bruce.ashfield, NEW , perf depends on python2, this blocks creating python3 images | 20:28 |
| RP | rewitt: shame it has to be under duress but still good to see you :) | 20:33 |
| rewitt | RP: Its not really under stress. I'm just working on different things. I did meet with Paul, Ross and Tim though, and they said I should come back :) | 20:34 |
| RP | rewitt: we all miss you! :) | 20:37 |
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| JaMa | anyone else seeing dependency loops with oe-core updates from today? | 21:20 |
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| aehs29 | rewitt: nice to see you back here | 21:21 |
| JaMa | my guess is that it's caused by "util-linux: Add missing ptest dependencies" | 21:22 |
| aehs29 | JPEW: multiconfig does parse things n times, because it has separate taskdata objects so its expected to be slower, but it shouldnt be THAT slow | 21:23 |
| JPEW | aehs29: Ya, I would expect it to be 2 times slower and the cache to be 2 times bigger when adding 1 multiconfig... it appears to be about 5 times slower and bigger | 21:24 |
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| aehs29 | JPEW: yeah theres something fishy going on there | 21:34 |
| JPEW | I *think* I may have found it | 21:35 |
| JPEW | Ah, excellent | 21:37 |
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| aehs29 | JPEW: what was it? | 22:02 |
| JPEW | http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/bitbake-devel/2019-May/020028.html | 22:02 |
| aehs29 | JPEW: awesome | 22:04 |
| RP | JPEW: nice find! :) | 22:14 |
| RP | JPEW: proves that optimisation is still somewhat useful! | 22:15 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to build Qt5 sdk in Yocto for Raspberry PI? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56247173/how-to-build-qt5-sdk-in-yocto-for-raspberry-pi> | 22:41 |
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