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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Building meta-virtualization layer in yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41938892/building-meta-virtualization-layer-in-yocto> | 09:21 |
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| paulbarker | smurray, fray, armpit: My gitsm issue was with azure-umqtt-c so fd27ab6 looks very relevant. I cherry-picked that and 30fe86d, threw away my build dir (including downloads cache) and tried a clean build. That worked :) | 10:05 |
| RP | paulbarker: we're missing some backports to 1.40? | 10:07 |
| paulbarker | A pair of gitsm fixes: fd27ab6 and 30fe86d in bitbake | 10:08 |
| paulbarker | There was some brief discussion here last night | 10:09 |
| RP | paulbarker: are those already in 1.42? | 10:15 |
| RP | paulbarker: I can backport them to 1.40 if so and you've tesed | 10:15 |
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| paulbarker | RP: 30fe86d is already in 1.42. Looks like the one I need isn't though, fd27ab6 is only in master and needs backporting to 1.42 as well | 10:19 |
| paulbarker | I've tested with both cherry-picked to 1.40 | 10:20 |
| qschulz | Speaking of backporting, I sent two patches for thud a week ago and I haven't received an answer other than "please clarify", which I did. How is pinging on the ML seen by the community/maintainers? What the recommended waiting time before pinging? | 10:20 |
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| RP | qschulz: I think the stable maintainer has been concentrating on warrior and is a touch overloaded :( | 10:25 |
| RP | qschulz: we should get those patches into thud... | 10:25 |
| qschulz | RP: Absolutely no worries/hurry, thanks for the info :) | 10:27 |
| RP | paulbarker: backported, thanks | 10:31 |
| paulbarker | RP: Thanks, that saves me carrying them locally :) | 10:32 |
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| RP | paulbarker: as the bitbake maintainer and knowing the history of those patches (and the tests) I can feel ok about fast tracking that | 10:41 |
| paulbarker | RP: fd27ab6 probably also wants to go into 1.42 then | 10:42 |
| RP | paulbarker: gah, I thought they were in 1.42 | 10:42 |
| paulbarker | 30fe86d is, fd27ab6 isn't | 10:43 |
| RP | paulbarker: thanks, sorted | 10:43 |
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| prabhakarlad | Hi all, what is the best way to set the default MACHINE ? | 11:12 |
| rburton | in your distro config | 11:26 |
| rburton | if you haven't got as far as writing a distro config then 1) consider if you should and 2) local.conf | 11:26 |
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| qschulz | rburton: why in the distro config? (outside of some toolchain selection/features enablement, I don't see (because I don't know) any more use for distro config). for me it's unrelated, what am I missing? | 11:35 |
| rburton | its all about the context really. i have a default in site.conf. | 11:36 |
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| prabhakarlad | rburton_: thank you! | 11:40 |
| rburton_ | but for a serious use, site.conf setting machine is stupid | 11:40 |
| rburton_ | because you'll have a distro config to set it | 11:40 |
| qschulz | rburton_: we define MACHINE= before bitbake here | 11:42 |
| rburton_ | thats the 'one shot override' way | 11:42 |
| rburton_ | local.conf is better | 11:42 |
| qschulz | and in my previous company we used to modify directly in conf/local.conf | 11:42 |
| qschulz | As you said, depend on the context, we have multiple different MACHINE so it kinda makes sense to pass it in the env | 11:43 |
| rburton_ | is it for this build only? in the environment when running bitbake. for all builds in this immediate configuration only? local.conf. all builds on this machine? site.conf is a shared location. all builds for this product? the distro conf | 11:43 |
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| qschulz | rburton_: ah, very interesting | 11:43 |
| qschulz | rburton_: thanks! | 11:45 |
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| jonmason | Has anyone seen an issue where teestimage fails with "WARNING: core-image-sato-1.0-r0 do_testimage: Qemu ended unexpectedly" | 11:53 |
| jonmason | inside the data dump, are shell commands that supposedly don't exist | 11:53 |
| rburton_ | thats qemu crashing, the other logs hopefully have more context? | 11:53 |
| jonmason | doing a simple runqemu shows it working | 11:53 |
| jonmason | the logs in tmp/log/runtime-hostdump/201906180026_qemu/host_00_* show "/bin/sh: df: command not found" | 11:58 |
| jonmason | or similar | 11:58 |
| jonmason | when I do runqemu, open the shell, df works perfectly | 11:59 |
| jonmason | is there another place I could find logs of what might have happened? | 11:59 |
| jonmason | btw, seeing this on 3 different systems on both x86 and arm64 | 11:59 |
| jonmason | so odds are high that I misconfigured something | 12:00 |
| jonmason | while looking at runqemu, I wonder if we should toggle the kvm to always be enabled and have a nokvm if we explicitly don't want it | 12:11 |
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| RP | jonmason: I'd ignore those logs | 12:22 |
| RP | jonmason: can you share the log.do_testimage somewhere? | 12:22 |
| RP | jonmason: those logs just show those things aren't present in the image which isn't an issue | 12:23 |
| * RP has the same thing here | 12:23 | |
| jonmason | https://pastebin.com/bzEewMbx | 12:25 |
| RP | jonmason: subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '('sudo', '/home/jdm/yocto/poky/scripts/runqemu-ifup', '1000', '1000', '/home/jdm/yocto/poky/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/qemu-helper-native/1.0-r1/recipe-sysroot-native/usr/bin')' returned non-zero exit status 1. | 12:27 |
| RP | jonmason: its failing to do with network device setup | 12:27 |
| jonmason | yup, I just saw that | 12:27 |
| jonmason | well, that explains it :( | 12:27 |
| jonmason | I'm stupid | 12:28 |
| jonmason | thanks | 12:28 |
| RP | jonmason: I use sudo `which runqemu-gen-tapdevs ` 1000 sharedsource 4 tmp/sysroots-components/x86_64/qemu-helper-native/usr/bin | 12:28 |
| RP | presetup the tap devices | 12:28 |
| RP | you probably want 1000 instead of sharedsource | 12:28 |
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| jonmason | I think I saw something in the docs about the taps being setup, but didn't connect that it could've been the issue | 12:29 |
| RP | jonmason: the options are to setup in advance or let it use sudo | 12:30 |
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| JPEW | I think we are going to have to disable Python PGO for reproducible builds :( | 12:45 |
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| RP | JPEW: ah. I can imagine why this may be an issue :( | 12:52 |
| RP | JPEW: could we copy in a cached profile? | 12:53 |
| JPEW | RP: Yes we should be able to. I was reading some posts on line and that was a recommendation | 12:53 |
| JPEW | I think the real questions is where it would be kept | 12:54 |
| RP | JPEW: alongside the python recipe? How big is it? | 13:10 |
| JPEW | ... checking | 13:10 |
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| JPEW | 2 MB ish | 13:13 |
| RP | JPEW: hmm, bit larger than I'd have liked | 13:19 |
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| RP | JPEW: put in a separate repo and pull it in as a source file? | 13:19 |
| JPEW | Ya, I think that would work. It would probably have to be re-generated every time python was updated? | 13:20 |
| JPEW | Or rather *should* be regenerated every time | 13:21 |
| RP | JPEW: yes, it would need that. We could write the recipe in such a way it generates if a source isn't specified? | 13:23 |
| RP | there is some kind of not quite fully formed idea here :) | 13:23 |
| JPEW | Ya, fair enough. I'll see if it is workable | 13:24 |
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| JPEW | I think this is the last non-reproducible build in core-image-minimal (I still have to submit a bunch of patches....) | 13:24 |
| RP | JPEW: that sounds very cool :) | 13:26 |
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| zeddii | RP: is there an example of a recipe that creates an optional package ? or is it something that i should just allow a package to be empty, or populated based on a variable ? | 14:38 |
| zeddii | I'm trying to finish up my tweaked linux-headers/linux-source additional to kernel-devsrc. | 14:39 |
| zeddii | and want to avoid the full linux-source copy, unless someone really wants it. | 14:39 |
| zeddii | I'm reusing all the infrastructure from kernel-devsrc for most of the work, and wanted to avoid making a separate recipe, or churn things into a .inc. | 14:40 |
| zeddii | hmmm. | 14:40 |
| * zeddii ponders | 14:40 | |
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| RP | zeddii: you could make it a PACKAGECONFIG ? | 14:41 |
| smurray | zeddii: does anything RDEPEND on the optional package if it's built? | 14:43 |
| zeddii | nope. | 14:43 |
| zeddii | it is just something you can install if you want to suffer the bloat of full kernel source :D | 14:44 |
| smurray | okay, I'd say go for the empty package if so, but if not seems fine either way | 14:44 |
| zeddii | I'll try something and put out a RFC. I'm sure a patch will get comments. I was just trying to get close to the right thing before sending. | 14:45 |
| RP | zeddii: my fear is world builds pulling in a separate recipe | 14:46 |
| RP | this is probably going to be a testing matrix problem regardless though :( | 14:46 |
| zeddii | yah. you really don't want this to run unless you've asked for it. it is the entire thing we ran away from years ago. | 14:47 |
| zeddii | RP: agreed. Did you want to be pointed at the bugzilla ? I mentioned that when asked for the support. | 14:47 |
| RP | zeddii: I've tried to back you when this comes up. I can do so again somewhere... | 14:47 |
| RP | zeddii: I remember worlds of pain | 14:47 |
| zeddii | I indicated that it was for reference, since we can't have 3 different ways to build on-target modules times all of our architectures. | 14:48 |
| zeddii | if the existing devsrc isn't working, we should tweak it, or folks can carry their own recipes. | 14:48 |
| zeddii | anyway. what I have seems reasonable, I was just unwilling to do a full source copy every time. | 14:48 |
| RP | zeddii: we don't need to and it was hugely painful on the testing infrastrcture | 14:49 |
| * zeddii doesn't think that a few missing files here and there over a span of a year are considerable effort for devsrc when compared to the horror of the old approach :D | 14:49 | |
| RP | zeddii: people don't have to generally deal with that horror so complaining about the current situation is much easier to comprehend :/ | 14:50 |
| RP | zeddii: I'm seeing this a lot | 14:50 |
| zeddii | heh. agreed. | 14:50 |
| zeddii | like "where is kernel 5.1", 5.0 EOL'd all of 12 days ago!! | 14:50 |
| RP | its the kind of thing which makes me just want to give up and walk away, I get quite depressed about it | 14:50 |
| zeddii | it's the luxury of only have to care about one arch, or a few targets. | 14:51 |
| * zeddii doesn't have that. | 14:51 | |
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| ayaka | I heard there is a command for bitbake to enter the build environment of a recipe | 15:05 |
| ayaka | what is it? | 15:05 |
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| zeddii | ayaka. it is a task for a recipe: bitbake -c devshell <recipe> | 15:09 |
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| ayaka | zeddii, I see, I used it before | 15:10 |
| ayaka | something it won't enter the build workspace of a recipe | 15:10 |
| ayaka | but it works for some recipe | 15:10 |
| ayaka | what may cause those recipes won't be enter into proper place? | 15:11 |
| zeddii | it drops into whatever ${B} is for a recipe IIRC. | 15:12 |
| RP | https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/ | 15:15 |
| ayaka | zeddii, I would check thank you | 15:20 |
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| armpit | RP, there was a doc patch https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2019-June/045599.html | 15:45 |
| armpit | is there a problem, I wanted to include it in the warrior update | 15:45 |
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| RP | armpit: need to ask scott about that | 15:57 |
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| litb | hello folks | 16:18 |
| litb | we use gcc mingw on linux to cross compile our windows software. | 16:18 |
| litb | and we maybe want to evaluate to use yocto to compile our windows software. this would mean building a gcc-cross that targets windows, and uses a HOST of linux | 16:18 |
| litb | is this feasible at all? difficulty level? | 16:19 |
| khem | litb: its possible, currently we generate SDKs which run on windows/mingw hosts and are used to build linux apps ( opposite of what you want ) but there has been effort to do the options you are looking for | 16:20 |
| khem | and with some success, its possible to generate the SDK and build some code, but this is not upstreamed or a common usecase | 16:21 |
| litb | khem, i guess i could build on that work, since as an intermediary step, it would need to compile a windows-targetting compiler. I could use that build steps to generate the gcc-cross , i guess? | 16:21 |
| khem | today we can target for mingw | 16:22 |
| litb | khem, i have seen that. i think it's the meta-mingw layer | 16:22 |
| RP | litb: have a look at the meta-mingw layer, yes | 16:22 |
| khem | but the resulting cross compiled code target is linux | 16:22 |
| khem | and last year I did do few patches to target mingw code generation as well IIRC I have posted them for meta-mingw | 16:24 |
| litb | khem, hm, i see. maybe the .deb thing or some other tools in yocto will get into trouble since artifacts are not anymore elf/.a files | 16:24 |
| litb | khem, ah, nice | 16:24 |
| khem | actually it works pretty smoothly after toolchain is working, I was at a point where I was trying to build bash | 16:25 |
| khem | for windows :) and I gave up | 16:25 |
| JPEW | khem: I don't remember seeing those patches on the ML | 16:25 |
| litb | currently we're using MXE, and we would need to compile the linux things wrapped in a package-less recipe using EXTRA_IMAGEDEPENDS or something | 16:25 |
| khem | JPEW: I did send something probably common patches | 16:26 |
| litb | s,linux things,windows things, | 16:26 |
| litb | khem, ah cool, so maybe we could teach it to use our MXE toolchain and it will work all out | 16:26 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Can I create symbolic links from a Yocto recipe for a file that doesn't exist yet <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56656784/can-i-create-symbolic-links-from-a-yocto-recipe-for-a-file-that-doesnt-exist-ye> | 20:53 |
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| khem | zeddii: https://pastebin.com/raw/PQcGzDes | 23:20 |
| khem | thats when building qemuarm kernel on master | 23:21 |
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