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rburton | JPEW: i did a thing | 00:22 |
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rburton | WARNING: QA Issue: opkg-utils-doc contains non-reproducible man page /usr/share/man/man1/opkg-build.1 [podman] | 00:22 |
rburton | running a world test now to see what the damage is | 00:22 |
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yocti | New news from stackoverflow: IR remote control using LIRC. (NEC) <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/58636136/ir-remote-control-using-lirc-nec> | 02:45 |
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thomasd13 | Good morning. I checked out the new poky zeus (3.0) and got problems during the build of my image: Package "icu" fails at do_configure with this message: https://pastebin.com/im2277qS | 07:13 |
thomasd13 | Has anyone else same problem? | 07:13 |
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xtron | I'm trying <VAR="${bb.utils.contains('MACHINE_FEATURES','X','true','false',d)}"> and then wanna use it as <if $VAR; then ...> but VAR is true in all cases. | 08:34 |
xtron | shell script and bitbake shell function have different behavior here, I'm able to perform desired operation in Linux shell script. any idea what's different for bitbake shell function e.g do_compile_append() | 08:36 |
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luneff | hey guys! I need to replace git repos mentioned in SRC_URIs of a multitude of packages. SRC_URI often has patches etc, so I can't just reassign the new address, neither I want to copy-paste all details. Is there a way to just have something like SRC_URI-pn-...-replace = s//g? | 09:12 |
luneff | within localconf | 09:12 |
luneff | I guess I need to put some PREMIRRORS magic then | 09:14 |
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rburton | luneff: premirrors might be a better solution | 09:15 |
rburton | or just use _remove then _append | 09:16 |
luneff | yes, I'll try PREMIRRORS. I need to build GenIVI circa 2015 and they've migrated everything to github since. Fingers crossed | 09:16 |
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litb | hmm... the cross-canadian.bbclass is the class used for toolchain packages that target the target-machine, and that run on the sdk host | 09:48 |
litb | I don't understand what the anonymous python function at the top of the class file does. if MODIFYTOS is not "1" (the default), it will do something to TARGET_OS and TARGET_VENDOR based on TARGET_ARCH | 09:49 |
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litb | s,not "1","1", | 09:50 |
rburton | if d.getVar("MODIFYTOS") != "1": | 09:52 |
rburton | i suspect its the bit where it hardcodes linux that is bothering you right | 09:54 |
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litb | rburton, yeah, but I'm not even sure what exactly the code does after that 'if'. The stuff before the 'if' appear to modify the PACKAGE_ARCHS so that all of them have the SDKPKGSUFFIX appended. PACKAGE_ARCHS is "all any noarch ${PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS} ${MACHINE_ARCH}" and nothing appears to change MACHINE_ARCH in cross-canadian | 10:02 |
litb | so PACKAGE_ARCHS will for example afterwards contain ${MACHINE_ARCH}-${SDKPKGSUFFIX} . so the gcc-cross-canadian recipe will declare it's compatible with that package-arch. | 10:03 |
litb | but I'm not sure what purpose the code after that MODIFYTOS-if has | 10:03 |
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litb | for example d.setVar(n, d.getVar(n)) appears to prematurely expand variable 'n' (PROVIDES and DEPENDS). but why does it do that? supposedly because afterwards it changes TARGET_OS and DEPENDS or PROVIDES might contain references to TARGET_OS that are not supposed to follow the change? | 10:05 |
litb | all of this must have to do something with the '${LIBCEXTENSION}${ABIEXTENSION}' suffix that is set in TARGET_OS by default in bitbake.conf, because cross-canadian changes TARGET_OS to not contain those anymore | 10:07 |
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mcfrisk | regarding yocto CVE talk: Linux kernel CVE data link https://github.com/nluedtke/linux_kernel_cves/tree/master | 10:08 |
litb | rburton, the cross-canadian tools are supposed to build their things so that the result are compatible with the image. so it appears to make no sense that cross-canadian changes anything about TARGET_OS. it makes sense that it changes HOST_OS for sure. | 10:12 |
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guerinoni | Hi guys, I'm having trouble working with hostnames and avahi! I have 2 boards with different hostnames; if I try to ping both of them from my PC the hostname works (ping board1.local or ping board2.local)! But if I try to ping one board from the other, ping fails with: ping: bad address 'board1.local'.Do you have any suggestions to fix this issue? | 10:17 |
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kpo | hey, I've question rather about u-boot, but hopefully someone here has the knowledge | 11:06 |
kpo | Hey, I just need some clarification - when no uboot.env is present on boot partition, it creates it's default based on what happened in uboot.scr at boot? and second question - boot.env *always* is 16K and *mustn't* be modified by hand (question arised because of non-literal characters in file)? | 11:06 |
LetoThe2nd | kpo: its not even exactly u-boot specific, but u-boot-on-specific-hardware-specific | 11:07 |
LetoThe2nd | kpo: so i would actually suggest you ask over at #u-boot, and name your specific board in use | 11:07 |
kpo | ok, thanks :) | 11:07 |
LetoThe2nd | kpo: good luck! | 11:09 |
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yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to override a .conf file in Yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/58642084/how-to-override-a-conf-file-in-yocto> || Yocto: remove packageconfig item <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/58641811/yocto-remove-packageconfig-item> | 11:16 |
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milloni | hi folks, im writing a blog post on how to set the gcc version in yocto, does anyone fancy taking a look to check if i got it correctly? https://gist.github.com/milloni/0018e810c61694f80c4421689b30dbb2 | 12:15 |
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JPEW | rburton: Is that a new QA test? | 13:04 |
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litb | why are there two Variable glossaries in the mega manual? | 14:07 |
LetoThe2nd | litb: because more is more | 14:07 |
litb | one in Chapter Chapter 45. and one in Chapter 33. | 14:08 |
LetoThe2nd | </yngwiemalmsteen> | 14:08 |
rburton | litb: creation failure probably | 14:08 |
litb | BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS is listed in two ones with different documentation | 14:08 |
rburton | litb: can you file a bug with links | 14:08 |
rburton | JPEW: one i hacked up locally but yes | 14:08 |
rburton | JPEW: the idea of a pod2man wrapper isn't super trivial, as you can get it to write to stdout. | 14:09 |
rburton | JPEW: so a wrapper would have to emulate pod2man arg parsing, intercept the output, etc. | 14:09 |
rburton | doable but complex | 14:09 |
litb | rburton, yeah I will file | 14:09 |
rburton | JPEW: alternatively, we fixup the manpages in do_package. complicated by the fact that man pages could be compressed. | 14:09 |
rburton | JPEW: the easy solution is to depend on perl-native everywhere but that's horrid. | 14:10 |
JPEW | rburton: Right | 14:10 |
JPEW | rburton: I'd prefer to fix it at the source (pod2man) rather than try to munge the pages post-mortem | 14:11 |
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rburton | presumably upstream won't take a patch to remove it from the output considering the reproducible builds people don't care for host environment changing yet | 14:12 |
kanavin | rburton, I sent a patch that tests ability to create gpl3-free images - suggestions for what other images could be tweaked and tested? | 14:14 |
rburton | awesome will look | 14:14 |
kanavin | I picked minimal and full-cmdline, because that is what meta-gpl2 is tested with | 14:14 |
rburton | JPEW: the easiest thing would be to rip out the pod2man arg parsing code directly but i hate perl so violently i don't think i could manage that | 14:15 |
rburton | maybe i'll write a dumb wrapper in py | 14:15 |
rburton | port the arg parsing to argparse | 14:16 |
rburton | and switch out the output to a temporary file so we can munge it then either write to the right place, or output on stdout | 14:16 |
JPEW | rburton: Nothing fullfills a hatred for perl more than replacing it with python. Cackling while you do so doesn't hurt either :) | 14:18 |
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rburton | JPEW: well https://pastebin.com/ucGVx03Z isn't *too* horrible and nearly complete | 15:02 |
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rburton | hm could use an argparse action to write the string as it is parsed | 15:03 |
JPEW | rburton: Can use use parser.parse_known_args() instead? | 15:04 |
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JPEW | rburton: https://docs.python.org/3/library/argparse.html#argparse.ArgumentParser.parse_known_args | 15:05 |
rburton | ah that might work | 15:05 |
rburton | didn't know of that | 15:05 |
JPEW | rburton: It's *really* helpful for these types of wrapper scripts | 15:06 |
rburton | *so close* | 15:06 |
rburton | eg opkg-utils does -r '' | 15:07 |
rburton | but this gets eaten and turned into just -r | 15:07 |
rburton | yeah because it doesn't know -r takes an option | 15:07 |
rburton | pod2man has an mandatory input and optional output argument | 15:08 |
rburton | so i'm trying having just those setup and then the parser | 15:08 |
rburton | but it feeds input as '' and output as what i put as input, then the actual output becomes a unknown argument | 15:08 |
rburton | so, no. | 15:08 |
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JPEW | Is it just '-r'? | 15:16 |
JPEW | that takes an argument? | 15:16 |
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rburton | no | 15:35 |
rburton | most do | 15:35 |
rburton | and can be '' | 15:35 |
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rburton | all these years and i'm not sure i even knew we had a meta-skeleton | 15:40 |
tgamblin | spooky | 15:43 |
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rburton | JPEW: a working thing in ross/mut now | 18:01 |
rburton | about to do a world build to see if it breaks | 18:01 |
JPEW | cool | 18:01 |
rburton | it was a fun forkbomb with the wrapper calling itself | 18:01 |
JPEW | lol | 18:01 |
rburton | hosttools will happily link to scripts, so even though i was removing scripts from PATH before searching, it found itself still | 18:02 |
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yocti | New news from stackoverflow: how to get the manifest of an image before building the image <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/58650565/how-to-get-the-manifest-of-an-image-before-building-the-image> | 20:17 |
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kergoth | nice, after a couple small tweaks and one workaround, and adding the coreutils+gnu-sed gnubin to the PATH, pyrex mel builds work on my macbook | 21:07 |
kergoth | of course, had to use a case sensitive disk image too, but that's to be expected | 21:08 |
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rburton | mel is mentor linux? | 21:14 |
rburton | what is pyrex? | 21:14 |
kergoth | yep. pyrex is one of those wrapper tools for running bitbake in docker | 21:18 |
kergoth | https://asciinema.org/a/9n4XXJwMzDX2e02bOJMkF54ef | 21:18 |
kergoth | er, wrong link, though related | 21:18 |
kergoth | https://github.com/garmin/pyrex | 21:18 |
kergoth | there | 21:18 |
rburton | ah, so the builds happen in a linux container | 21:19 |
kergoth | yeah | 21:19 |
kergoth | unlike crops, it's transparent, doesn't muck with your workflow. i was using custom scripts for it, but pyrex has a .ini to configure what paths fromt he host get mounted in the container and the like, which is convenient | 21:20 |
rburton | nice | 21:20 |
kergoth | https://github.com/kergoth/meta-mentor/blob/pyrex/conf/pyrex.ini.sample | 21:20 |
rburton | yay pod2man reproducibility wiped out | 21:29 |
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Piraty | adelcast: nice one about verification. | 21:41 |
Piraty | maybe show a warning (guard behind -v 2+) if the checksum file is missing | 21:43 |
Piraty | why not use sha* as well? (i found file_sha256sum_alloc() at least) | 21:45 |
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adelcast | ^Piraty: I try to model this after what debian does. Currently they only support md5 as the feature is meant to be used as a way to determine if you messed up with installed files. Is not meant to be a cryptographically secure way to detect tampering. | 21:58 |
adelcast | debian tools for auditing, etc, now should work with opkg | 21:58 |
adelcast | regarding warnings, currently debian doesn't enforce that all packages have checksums. Conffiles are an example were you explicitly don't want to have md5sums. | 21:59 |
adelcast | basically, its up to the package builder to decide, but there are tools to snapshot the system by creating md5sums of all installed packages | 22:00 |
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Piraty | why not surpass dpkg in this ? i mean debian clearly isn't i wise yardstick to choose | 22:00 |
adelcast | then with some bash you can see if you are off the golden standard and reinstall the packages that have files that changed | 22:00 |
adelcast | so I debated regarding sha256....I was kind of the fence to see if I should just support .sha256sums files too | 22:01 |
Piraty | i know, i use that alot with the packagemanager in my distro | 22:01 |
adelcast | I don't think I am opposed to it, and it should be simple to implement I think | 22:02 |
adelcast | still think that tripwire and similar tools should fill the tampering detection hole, but should be simple to have sha256 too | 22:04 |
rburton | is /dev/shm still a thing? | 22:08 |
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Piraty | rburton: it is on my system ? | 22:25 |
rburton | same here but wondering if thats historical | 22:25 |
rburton | appears to be used by glibc still for some apis | 22:25 |
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