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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How Can I Read Video Using SAMA5D27-SOM1-EK1 kit <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59367878/how-can-i-read-video-using-sama5d27-som1-ek1-kit> | 05:21 |
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| kreyren | I'm trying to make custom linux kernel configuration for amd64 where i spent 38 hours cherrypicking these based on googlefu, dmidecode, etc.. where i was told in ##linux to ask here so can someone help me with this? | 06:23 |
| kreyren | neofetch: http://ix.io/24Ez ;; dmidecode: http://ix.io/24EB | 06:26 |
| kreyren | config here http://ix.io/24Ey | 06:26 |
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| stuom1 | how do I start over completely with a specific recipe? I accidentally deleted couple files from build/tmp... with a bad wildcard and now I cannot get recipe to compile. Tried cleanall and force compile etc | 06:41 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to build hello world recipe in yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59369008/how-to-build-hello-world-recipe-in-yocto> | 07:21 |
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| erbo | stuom1: did you remove files in tmp/ that was not part of this particular recipe? Stuff installed by other recipes? | 07:43 |
| erbo | If so you would either have to know which recipe that was, and force a re-build of those, or just clean tmp/ and let it be rebuilt from sstate-cache. | 07:44 |
| stuom1 | missing file is build/tmp/sysroots-components/x86_64/clang-native/usr/include/llvm/Transforms/Utils/LibCallsShrinkWrap.h, I have tried force compile of clang but i still get error | 07:49 |
| stuom1 | how could I make bitbake just forget about meta-clang and add it again and start completely over? | 07:50 |
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| stuom1 | what should I remove from tmp/ that bitbake would rebuild them and not complain that something is missing? | 08:12 |
| stuom1 | I can remove whole build/ but i dont want that since rebuild would take half a day | 08:12 |
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| Mr0rris0 | got this pdf, whats it mean really | 08:15 |
| Mr0rris0 | http://i.stanford.edu/pub/cstr/reports/csl/tr/76/111/CSL-TR-76-111.pdf | 08:15 |
| Mr0rris0 | A Distributed Algorithm for | 08:15 |
| Mr0rris0 | --r’l, Constructing Minimal Spanning Trees | 08:15 |
| Mr0rris0 | in Computer-Communication Networks | 08:15 |
| LetoThe2nd | Mr0rris0: hum, how come you think we do explain CS theory? | 08:15 |
| Mr0rris0 | cant say, just not sure if any if it applies to what i glanced over this bein about | 08:16 |
| Mr0rris0 | if not then thats something, i mean i dunno, i guess it informs me of something | 08:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | Mr0rris0: without atually looking at it, spanning trees in networks are usually about routing. | 08:17 |
| erbo | stuom1: you can remove all of build/tmp/*, it should "rebuild" quite fast since it will use the sstate-cache | 08:19 |
| stuom1 | @erbo Ok I'm trying that thanks. It gives me massive error spam for about every recipe that "The recipe XXX is trying to install files into a shared area when those files already exist". Is that expected? | 08:23 |
| stuom1 | "ERROR: XXX do_package_write_ipk: If the above message is too much, the simpler version is you're advised to wipe out tmp and rebuild (reusing sstate is fine). That will likely fix things in most (but not all) cases. | 08:29 |
| stuom1 | wiping out tmp is what I just did, causing the errors | 08:29 |
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| LetoThe2nd | stuom1: wiping out, in the meaning of completely removing tmp? | 08:42 |
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| stuom1 | LetoThe2nd yes | 08:45 |
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| LetoThe2nd | stuom1: strange, that is totally unproblematic | 08:45 |
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| stuom1 | ls | 08:48 |
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| nacknick | Hi. I want to add package manager ("apt-get") to my rpi3-yocto image. After adding EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES += "package-management" and modify PACKAGE_CLASSES ?= "package_deb" in local.conf file, I guess that I need to add repositories to the image so I will able to use "apt" command. How to do it? I want to add recipes that available from | 08:56 |
| nacknick | openembedded.org afterwards | 08:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: sorry, thats not how it works | 08:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: openembedded does *not* provide package feeds. | 08:57 |
| RP | kanavin: I think with the feedback I've just sent that means you have feedback on most of the unmerged patches. I'm going to wait for a new queue now for those. | 08:58 |
| nacknick | letothe2nd: OK. So what should I do to be able to install packages after the image is running? | 08:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: you'd have to set up your ownb package repository -> https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/white-papers/package-manager-white-paper.pdf | 09:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: but usually its way better to think about your usecase first. if you want an interactive system to tinker on and install packages at random, then OE/yocto is just not what fits your needs. | 09:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: the OE way is to think and decide what one needs *before* building, and then create a custom image that exactly suits the usecae. | 09:01 |
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| nacknick | LetoThe2nd: Thank you | 09:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: have fun. | 09:04 |
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| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: i think episode #2 gives a pretty good outline of how to do custom images: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD4M5FoHz-TxMfBFrDKfIS_GLY25Qsfyj | 09:05 |
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| stuom1 | LetoThe2nd I had to remove build/deploy along with build/tmp to get rid of errors | 09:14 |
| LetoThe2nd | stuom1: ok. so you deliberately pulled deploy *out* of tmp? | 09:15 |
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| stuom1 | I didn't, but maybe somebody did :D | 09:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | thats very uncommon, and probably part of your problem. whenever somebody here says "wipe tmp", it is implicitly assumed that everything that is neither sstate nor downloads is removed. | 09:17 |
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| stuom1 | I think my local.conf is pretty much default what came with Toradex's sources, and yes deploy dir is separate | 09:21 |
| LetoThe2nd | go blame toradex | 09:22 |
| stuom1 | I will ;) | 09:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | why would anybody ship you a local.conf for any reason other than hiding dirty hacks, no idea. | 09:22 |
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| kroon | When I run out of disk space, its not possible to start new tasks, not even 'clean'-task for a recipe in order to free up space. Are there any other way to salvage the build except wiping TMPDIR ? | 09:29 |
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| qschulz | kroon: to be able to run bitbake, maybe modify BB_DISKMON_DIRS? https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-BB_DISKMON_DIRS | 09:37 |
| qschulz | kroon: but I always just remove TMPDIR since with the sstate-cache it's pretty fast | 09:38 |
| kroon | qschulz, ah.. I guess you mean temporarily lower the limits in order to run emergency cleanup tasks. sounds reasonable | 09:39 |
| JaMa | anyone seeing higher inode usage recently? | 09:39 |
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| JaMa | I'm on 4M limit in TMPDIR with relatively small image | 09:40 |
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| stuom1 | has anybody tried to make a recipe for scipy using pip? | 09:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | stuom1: it has been asked several times, but i don't think there something out there. | 09:52 |
| stuom1 | yeah all I find is different problems with it but no solutions | 09:54 |
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| lfa | hello! I have a board which can have two different flash sizes (4 and 8GB). I'm using wic to create a "data" ext4 partition. This data partition should have a differnt size for the 4 GB and 8GB flash | 10:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | lfa: 2 machine files which include all the common parts and just route to separate wks files | 10:09 |
| lfa | What's the best practice to handle a situation like this? Generate two different wic images? Resize the partition dynamically on first startup? | 10:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | lfa: the wks files an also have a common include | 10:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | and therefor just haev different sizes. | 10:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | (thats the blunt, common aproach) | 10:10 |
| lfa | Ok, so I should create two machines? | 10:11 |
| LetoThe2nd | the rest depends on your use case. | 10:11 |
| LetoThe2nd | it can be possible to resize on first startup. or maybe the only difference is in some for of data partition. or, or, or | 10:11 |
| LetoThe2nd | the 2machine approach certainly works, but there might be more elegant ones for your specific usecase. | 10:12 |
| qschulz | lfa: are you sure only the size changes? no page size? no block size? etc. If there's any chance that size is not the only change, different machines. If there is even the smallest chance the flash chip will change, different machines. (considering flash = nand device) | 10:14 |
| qschulz | considering/assuming | 10:14 |
| lfa | ok, thanks. I will look into it. Two machines sounds a bit cumbersome, as really the only difference is the size of this partition (which is empty in the image btw) | 10:14 |
| lfa | qschulz: it's an eMMC | 10:14 |
| lfa | sorry, should have mentioned that :) | 10:15 |
| qschulz | lfa: or create two wic images with different sizes. Don't know if it's supported already though | 10:16 |
| qschulz | but usually, different hardware = different machines | 10:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | its the better safe than sorry appraoch. | 10:18 |
| lfa | well.. there are other hardware differences too, but all these are handled during "runtime". I followed the approach the imx6 sabresd boards took. 1 machine, supporting different variants (e.g. iMX6 Solo vs Quad) | 10:20 |
| lfa | The only remaining difference during build-time would be the eMMC size | 10:21 |
| qschulz | lfa: do à la RPi with resizing of the partition at runtime? | 10:25 |
| lfa | qschulz: thanks for RPi pointer. Will look at how they do it | 10:28 |
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| qschulz | lfa: I don't know if they do it in Yocto though, but raspbian and others do for sure | 10:35 |
| rburton | fairly simple, grow the partition table then grow the file system | 10:36 |
| rburton | systemd actually has a service built in to grow file systems, but it can't do partitions too. probably worth sending a patch to them to do the partition table too... | 10:37 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Unable to start bitbake server <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48132054/unable-to-start-bitbake-server> | 10:52 |
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| stuom185 | anybody using chromium? Any way to get rid of that "getrandom indicates that the entropy pool has not been initialized" message at startup? | 11:34 |
| stuom185 | I mean it doesnt start before it gets some entropy (mouse movement etc) | 11:35 |
| rburton | get some entropy in your pool | 11:40 |
| rburton | a lot of boards have a hardware rng you can hook up | 11:41 |
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| crazy_imp | hi, what should i look at if fetching of an ssh+git source fails? if i run the git ls-remoto command with all the variables set by the fetcher in a normal shell, it looks fine, but bitbake complains about being unable to parse the HEAD revision | 11:43 |
| kroon | stuom185, rburton, I got a stalling sshd on boot once, nowadays I think sshd RRECOMMENDS "rng-tools" in order to help with the entropy | 11:46 |
| rburton | right | 11:46 |
| rburton | its a brute force hammer | 11:46 |
| rburton | i've been meaning to remove that and get BSPs to add it if they need it | 11:48 |
| stuom185 | thanks, I'll look into rng-tools | 11:49 |
| rburton | first look at your hardware | 11:50 |
| stuom185 | there is /dev/hwrnd but what to do with it | 11:51 |
| rburton | you might just need to pass a kernel argument to get it working nicely | 11:51 |
| rburton | what is the hardware? | 11:51 |
| stuom185 | hwrng i mean | 11:51 |
| stuom185 | toradex colibri imx8x | 11:52 |
| rburton | http://main.lv/writeup/kernel_dev_hwrng.md is a useful resource | 11:59 |
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| rburton | stuom185: assuming https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/char/hw_random/imx-rngc.c is the driver then maybe a fix like https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/62f95ae805fa9e1e84d47d3219adddd97b2654b7 is appropriate? | 12:26 |
| stuom185 | rburton thanks for looking into it. I will take a note of these if I will need them later. It looks like it's way over my head though, I was hoping more like some --dont-ask-about-entropy flag for chromium haha. | 12:38 |
| rburton | the problem is deeper: you have *no* entropy on boot | 12:38 |
| rburton | rng-tools will bandaid it | 12:38 |
| stuom185 | So far only chromium seems to care about that. Is there something bad about rng-tools? | 12:40 |
| rburton | no, its just that for some hardware it isn't needed | 12:41 |
| rburton | (if the kernel does the right thing) | 12:41 |
| rburton | thus that omap patch: one line to tell the kernel to use the driver out of the box | 12:41 |
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| LetoThe2nd | ndec: *sigh* andreea skipped my typo in the mail - can you edit a tweet she made? | 13:47 |
| ndec | LetoThe2nd: let me check | 13:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: s/4:00/4:30/ | 13:54 |
| ndec | LetoThe2nd: i couldn't edit, but added a corretion.. | 13:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: thanks and sorry for the confusion this time :( | 13:59 |
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| Crofton|road | LetoThe2nd: 1630 is new start time? | 14:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | Crofton|road: it was always the start time, but it seems that this was only in my head | 14:22 |
| Crofton|road | Ah :) | 14:22 |
| Crofton|road | Dodn't forget to mention https://pretalx.com/oe-workshop-2020/ please | 14:23 |
| LetoThe2nd | Crofton|road: yeah i've got it mentally noted. | 14:23 |
| Crofton|road | I'll try and watch and remind you if you slack off | 14:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | "if"? | 14:26 |
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| kanavin | RP: yes, I'm going to work on those one by one - thanks | 14:29 |
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| LetoThe2nd | public service announcemente: live coding session about to start in 3 minutes :) | 15:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | https://www.twitch.tv/yocto_project | 15:27 |
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| wertigon | So, trying to change image on my psplash, but nothing I do seems to be working, what am I doing wrong? | 15:41 |
| wertigon | I have gotten an image with psplash up and running and now I want to replace the image | 15:41 |
| wertigon | But merely replacing it seems to not do anything | 15:42 |
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| Crofton|road | Everyone get on twitch and say hi! | 15:49 |
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| Crofton|road | fray: LetoThe2nd needs some firecracker animations! | 15:55 |
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| smurray | YPTM: Scott Murray has joined | 15:59 |
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| rburton | wertigon: did you change the png, or the generated source | 16:07 |
| rburton | wertigon: you need to re-generate a header from the png | 16:07 |
| wertigon | I did regenerate the .h file | 16:09 |
| wertigon | And copied it | 16:09 |
| wertigon | Thinking a cache problem somewhere, but nvm... Time to go home for today | 16:09 |
| wertigon | I'll do a clean rebuild during the night and see if that solves my problem :) | 16:09 |
| wertigon | My problem btw, image showing up is a bit large, so I want to shrink it somehow | 16:10 |
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| wertigon | Anyway; see you tomorrow! | 16:13 |
| dreyna | YPTM minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ly8nyhO14kDNnFcW2QskANXW3ZT7QwKC5wWVDg9dDH4 | 16:18 |
| armpit | RP, bug 13714 for the cento7 gcc uninative issue | 16:19 |
| yocti | Bug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13714 normal, Undecided, ---, unassigned, NEW , add gcc to buildtools for Centos7 uninative | 16:19 |
| kanavin | rburton, how does one actually build a devupstream variant of a recipe? | 16:21 |
| kanavin | I tried lttng-modules-devupstream, devupstream-lttng-modules, nothing seems to work | 16:21 |
| kanavin | lttng-modules-devupstream:target, devupstream:target-lttng-modules | 16:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | Crofton|road: was that enough advertising? | 16:25 |
| Crofton|road | Yes | 16:26 |
| Crofton|road | having the link in chat should be great | 16:26 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Crofton|road: for reasons unknown we seemed to only have a handful of viewers today. no idea why. | 16:26 |
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| LetoThe2nd | actually thought that finding out why things happen is an interesting topic for most users ;-) | 16:30 |
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| Crofton|road | Maybe the time issue? | 16:33 |
| Crofton|road | holidays? people are already slacking off | 16:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | yeah timing is really a problem for me these days. | 16:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | anyways. off then! | 16:35 |
| kergoth | I'm half asleep and unproductive today | 16:36 |
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| rburton | kanavin: it makes an identical recipe clone with a different PV | 16:46 |
| rburton | kanavin: so set PREFERRED_VERSION | 16:46 |
| kanavin | oh, I see | 16:46 |
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| khem | armpit: I took the qemuppc64 machine conf from one of your layers, it does not boot linux-yocto 5.2 though ,should it ? | 17:50 |
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| armpit | I have not touched it in years so I have not idea what state it is in | 17:52 |
| RP | khem: ask zeddii about mips64 ;-) I'd hope ppc64 is in better shape | 17:53 |
| khem | armpit:ok | 17:53 |
| khem | RP: yeah heh | 17:54 |
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| kanavin | rburton, usage of devupstream badly breaks 'devtool upgrade' | 18:06 |
| kanavin | it gets confused between the two variants | 18:06 |
| kergoth | that's odd, it should know what's preferred and what isn't | 18:26 |
| kergoth | keying off of filename only perhaps | 18:26 |
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| mischief | what's the right way to override /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf from procps? | 20:50 |
| khem | mischief: via a bbappend provide your own and add it to do_install | 20:52 |
| kergoth | see also recipetool appendfile | 20:53 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to install scipy on yocto warrior [closed] <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59164784/how-to-install-scipy-on-yocto-warrior> | 23:54 |
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