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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Include precompiled zImage in yocto project <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60050263/include-precompiled-zimage-in-yocto-project> | 03:55 |
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| LetoThe2nd | hooray, yet another downvote-battle on SO. | 08:02 |
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| LetoThe2nd | and, is it just me or is linked ins newsfeed completely unusable? | 08:20 |
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| RP | LetoThe2nd: we need to fix the bot | 08:35 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: well, tbf you're not really answering the question :) | 08:35 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: sorry, I think I'm confused | 08:35 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: I promise I didn't downvote :) | 08:37 |
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| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: oh i'm pretty sure that the poster of the first answer downvoted me. his answer consisted of a link to the 1.2 quickstart, the usual image of the openembedded data flow and a suggestion to do IMAGE_INSTALL_append | 09:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: so i commented him saying "sorry, this is just nowhere near the question, and the IMAGE_INSTALL is technically wrong in that context. please don't take it personally." | 09:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | obviously another one who can't take critique | 09:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: feel free to add/improve/... :) | 09:05 |
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| LetoThe2nd | RP: confused? | 09:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | The real problem with SO is to me that there "I just want to" questions galore, and if you try to help you're being punished for it. | 09:07 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: AB issues. They explain with so little context that you can only answer wrongly most of the time :/ | 09:07 |
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| * LetoThe2nd will probably just letSO be then. | 09:08 | |
| LetoThe2nd | and file it under "failed community service attempts" | 09:08 |
| qschulz | Instead of fixing the actual bug. But that's actually the issues with most of programmers (I still have those moments and I still work with others doing the same) | 09:08 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: Well... Don't take downvotes personnally. You did your best in helping people, if they don't want to hear abuot it. Meh, whatever | 09:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: sure, but on irc you can have a discussion. and on a mailing list, you can't just let your own rubbish vanish, making all others look stupid. | 09:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: i don't take the downvote personally, i take personally the system basically punishes those who want to help. | 09:09 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: reminds me of: https://twitter.com/srostedt/status/1132009918444318721?s=20 | 09:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: exactly. | 09:10 |
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| LetoThe2nd | that fits so much. | 09:11 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: yeah, I've a hard time with SO. Sometimes answers are completely not related to the questions. Like "how do I do this in vim" and an answer is "one would do it this way in emacs"... | 09:11 |
| LetoThe2nd | i don't ask there anyways. | 09:11 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: I haven't understood your "and on mailing list" | 09:11 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: I asked one question on it years ago. Upvoted a lot, never got an answer :D | 09:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | i've worked long and hard (believe it or not) to know folks i can ask *personally*. | 09:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: on a mailing list, if you give a totally unrelated answer, you can't hide it afterwards. its in the archive, you can't just delete it like your crap output on SO. | 09:13 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: aaaaaah I see. Yup, agreed. | 09:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | :) | 09:15 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: people don't want to be held responsible anyway... And it's hard for people to take the risk of looking stupid. Ego thing. I don't like it when I'm being told but at least I learn :) | 09:16 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yup. | 09:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | probably another reason why i am having such a hard time to recruit other streamers. | 09:19 |
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| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: I would never have presented anything at a conference if I hadn't been forced by my previous employer. And... I actually like it (not the moment before, nor the first 2min, sheer panic). It's very nice. I learned so much preparing the thing. So I guess you've to get into people's home, put them in front of a camera and force them to stream to have streamers :) | 09:25 |
| nacknick | Hello. If /etc/network/interfaces is missing. Does it depend on menuconfig settings? If it does, which one? | 09:25 |
| qschulz | -to stream | 09:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: /etc/network/interfaces is a debianoid thing | 09:25 |
| nacknick | And if I want to set static IP to my NXP's board, how should I do it? | 09:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: i've actually thrown chocolate at the audience in my presentations many times. | 09:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: depends on the network manager you want to use | 09:26 |
| rburton | nacknick: if you want interfaces etc, install ifupdown | 09:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | (with ifupdown counting as a network manager for the sake of this conversation, rburton++) | 09:27 |
| nacknick | LetoThe2nd: I don't care which one. Just want to set static IP simply and permanently. | 09:27 |
| nacknick | rburton: Thanks. I try | 09:28 |
| nacknick | I'll* | 09:28 |
| rburton | cool kids use connman or network-manager and have mDNS do its magi | 09:28 |
| rburton | magic | 09:28 |
| rburton | all my images i can ssh into using the name bob.local | 09:28 |
| * LetoThe2nd is not cool. uses networkd | 09:28 | |
| rburton | networkd works well for the use cases it works well in | 09:28 |
| * qschulz uses ip commands and udhcpc | 09:28 | |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: if my usecases don't fit, i make them do so :P | 09:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: ^^^^ | 09:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | (oops) | 09:29 |
| rburton | ha | 09:29 |
| nacknick | rburton: Do you use local DNS? | 09:30 |
| rburton | nacknick: no, mDNS is awesome | 09:30 |
| nacknick | rburton: Does it require install mdns on the endpoints? Or some other settings in the network | 09:32 |
| nacknick | I mean, if I want to use it in my LAN for my boards, should I rebuild all their images with mdns? | 09:33 |
| rburton | nacknick: i put avahi into all my images for convenience. its certainly nice being able to just let DHCP do its thing and mDNS do the resolution. | 09:34 |
| rburton | you need to have the daemon running on the machines that you want to be able to find, and the machines that do the searching need the mdns resolver. | 09:35 |
| rburton | all linux distros have both parts | 09:35 |
| nacknick | So just add avahi package to my boards? | 09:35 |
| rburton | but it is a bit more high tech than just a static ip in interfaces, so your choice | 09:35 |
| rburton | avahi-daemon | 09:35 |
| nacknick | https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/recipes/?q=avahi | 09:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: actually an interesting approach. need to keep this on my look-at-list. | 09:37 |
| rburton | LetoThe2nd: surprised systemd doesn't do the job of avahi yet | 09:37 |
| rburton | considering lennart wrote avahi | 09:37 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: hehe | 09:37 |
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| LetoThe2nd | rburton: i'm highly pragmatic when it comes to systemd. it fits my bill better than any other solution available at the moment, so i use it. | 09:38 |
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| rburton | LetoThe2nd: i stand corrected https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-resolved#mDNS | 09:39 |
| rburton | just need to use the resolved | 09:40 |
| LetoThe2nd | hrhrhr | 09:40 |
| LetoThe2nd | thats what i meant. if i now decide to use it, probably just need to flip some config bit somewhere. | 09:40 |
| LetoThe2nd | -> fits use case. | 09:40 |
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| rburton | LetoThe2nd: if you test it, report back :) | 09:40 |
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| LetoThe2nd | rburton: shall do so. probably 2021 or 2022 depending on my workload. | 09:41 |
| rburton | that soon? | 09:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | yup. im totally underworked. | 09:42 |
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| RP | LetoThe2nd: do you have a bugzilla account? :) | 09:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | and believe it or not, i'm jsut right at this moment writing some parts of code that do feed networkd. | 09:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: ayup. | 09:43 |
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| nacknick | rburton: I added `avahi` to `IMAGE_INSTALL_apped` and got the following error when building *core-image-minimal-1.0-r0 do_rootfs: Could not invoke dnf.* - Do you have any idea why? | 09:56 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Yocto: adding "tree" to image, where are output binaries <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60054656/yocto-adding-tree-to-image-where-are-output-binaries> | 09:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: want me to file a bug that people are generally stupid? | 10:00 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: I'll pass on that thanks ;-) | 10:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: hum why the question then? | 10:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | ah. now i got it. | 10:02 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: you were saying you were underworked ;-) | 10:02 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: we could fix this :) | 10:02 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: the problem is that this would not increase my workload, only my frustration. because i would have to pass on each and every bug for my incompetence. | 10:03 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: that is simply not true ;-) | 10:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | hrhrhr | 10:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | i wish it was so. | 10:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | anyways. objections if i make the next livecoding session a little less YOEP-centric, but more like "why you should use a proper build system for you c/c++ stuff, and here's an example"? | 10:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | i feel like this is a topic many newcomers struglle with, given the amount of c-file-manually-compile-recipes. | 10:06 |
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| rburton | nacknick: as i said, install avahi-daemon | 10:12 |
| rburton | nacknick: or if you use systemd already then just tell it to do the mdns stuff, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-resolved#mDNS | 10:13 |
| mckoan | is it possible to have .ipk with opkg install interactive input? | 10:19 |
| rburton | doubt it very much | 10:21 |
| rburton | at least, you can't need it because you can't do interactive in a rootfs session | 10:21 |
| rburton | so you might be able to check if there's input during the postinst | 10:23 |
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| mckoan | rburton: thx, so the only solution would be to use .deb | 10:39 |
| LetoThe2nd | mckoan: whats the bigger picture of the use case? | 10:40 |
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| mckoan | LetoThe2nd: I know it's weird but I want to install a binary package which has a config file (one of many possible). I need to define which one at install/reconfig time | 10:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | mckoan: and it is absolutely required that all the variants are installed under the exact same name? | 10:52 |
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| LetoThe2nd | mckoan: line of thought is, you could have this thing provide a virtual/something. for your x configuration options, just create x packages something-1, soemthing-2,... which conflict and each provide virtual/something | 10:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | so you can use the package name as selector. | 10:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | nobody says you cant have a number of packages providing almost identical payloads. :) | 10:56 |
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| mckoan | LetoThe2nd: I see, thanks | 10:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | mckoan: just an idea. | 10:58 |
| mckoan | LetoThe2nd: ;-) | 10:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | mckoan: neat side effect, this works interactively and non-interactively. | 10:58 |
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| Ad0 | where can I discuss device trees on freenode? :P | 11:16 |
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| yann|work | I'm puzzled by a kernel compilation issue (rockchip 4.4 kernel, using warrior toolchain): the kernel builds fine from bitbake, but using a yocto sdk built from the same source, the build fails when attempting to link arch/arm64/kernel/vdso/vdso.so.dbg, with ".../aarch64-shadow-linux/8.3.0/real-ld: fatal error: -shared and -static are incompatible" | 11:40 |
| yann|work | that does not seem to inspire google much | 11:40 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: bitbake populate_sdk for image fails with error <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60058817/bitbake-populate-sdk-for-image-fails-with-error> | 13:57 |
| yann|work | hm, that happens only when using gold - the same call with ld.bfd shows no problem... | 14:03 |
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| yann|work | damned, kernel-arch.bbclass is too clever :) | 14:11 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Yocto: adding "tree" to image, where are output binaries? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60054656/yocto-adding-tree-to-image-where-are-output-binaries> | 14:27 |
| JPEW | RP: ipk vs deb should be a subTest(), I'm not sure why it wouldn't get both | 14:28 |
| RP | JPEW: once self.fail() is called, game over | 14:31 |
| RP | JPEW: tracked down the ipk problems btw | 14:32 |
| JPEW | RP: Oh right I've been carrying around an incomplete patch to fix subTest :( | 14:32 |
| RP | Does anyone have a build of tcp-wrappers around? If so could they see what permissions ${S}/*.c have? Are they r--r--r-- or rw-r--r--? | 14:33 |
| RP | I think quilt is changing permissions in some cases to apply patches but not sure i can prove it :/ | 14:34 |
| JPEW | RP: almost all are r--r--r-- except: | 14:37 |
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| JPEW | ./weak_symbols.c | 14:37 |
| RP | weak_symbols.c is probably the only one? | 14:37 |
| JPEW | correct | 14:37 |
| RP | JPEW: we end up with more files with rw in some builds. Just don't know how. I'm suspicious that this recipe has a lot of patches | 14:38 |
| JPEW | RP: Ya, that would make sense | 14:38 |
| tlwoerner | what year was YP started? ( <- gsoc application) 2010? 2011? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yocto_Project | 14:39 |
| RP | tlwoerner: 2010 | 14:39 |
| tlwoerner | thanks :-) | 14:39 |
| RP | 0.9 was released Oct 2010 iirc | 14:40 |
| RP | I wonder if patch behaves differently | 14:40 |
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| tlwoerner | halstead: can you please add me to the gsoc mailing list? will the yocto gsoc mailing list show up on https://www.yoctoproject.org/community/mailing-lists/ | 15:42 |
| khem | RP: I have send pulls which are also in kraj/pu on poky contrib, one of them is musl fix so you want to pick it up | 15:43 |
| khem | RP: btw. that bison-native race is impacting quite a bit of builds | 15:44 |
| khem | one way I found was to depend on external libunistrings but that does not seem optimum | 15:44 |
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| RP | khem: should we revert bison for now? | 15:50 |
| RP | khem: are those upgrades in master-next? | 15:50 |
| khem | RP: I will look into fixing it today | 15:50 |
| khem | no I sent pulls earlier last week and git-send emails | 15:51 |
| khem | but all are in kraj/pu branch on contrib too | 15:51 |
| RP | khem: ok, I'm really struggling to do all the review and fix these reproducibility issues and keep track of everything else :( | 15:52 |
| khem | RP: I have changed my workflow a bit, where kraj/pu will be more collection of other patches too so you have some help | 15:53 |
| khem | RP: I could throw it as AB perhaps once in a day or 2 or so | 15:53 |
| RP | khem: I've queued musl and netbase in next locally | 15:54 |
| khem | RP: OK the webkit will take long to recompile but perhaps take it in for nightly | 15:54 |
| armpit | YPTM: Armin is on | 15:55 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: boost and btrfs-tools failed with Yocto build <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60060832/boost-and-btrfs-tools-failed-with-yocto-build> | 15:58 |
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| JPEW20 | YPTM: Joshua Watt here | 16:00 |
| vmeson | YPTM: Randy is in da house. | 16:00 |
| tlwoerner | JPEW20: is this the new improved Joshua 2.0? | 16:00 |
| halstead | YPTM Michael joined. | 16:01 |
| JPEW20 | tlwoerner: lol, no. I just signed in on my laptop from the web interface. Can't install hexchat easily on Windows 10 :( | 16:01 |
| tlwoerner | lol | 16:01 |
| halstead | tlwoerner, We haven't made a GSoC list. Is there a discussion about it? | 16:02 |
| vmeson | if anyone wants to join the monthly technical call: https://www.yoctoproject.org/public-virtual-meetings/ | 16:02 |
| tlwoerner | halstead: i just added myself to the list! | 16:02 |
| tlwoerner | https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/gsoc/ | 16:02 |
| aehs29_ | vmeson: I was just about to ask for the link | 16:03 |
| vmeson | aehs29_: :) | 16:03 |
| halstead | tlwoerner, Thanks. I found it. | 16:04 |
| Nathan22 | I'm trying to build 'qt5-opengles2-test' from meta-qt5 and I'm getting: "error: 'glEnableVertexAttribArray' was not declared in this scope", while trying to build. Anyone encountered this before? | 16:07 |
| Nathan22 | " | 16:07 |
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| fullstop | can I tell devtool to ignore certain tags? | 16:13 |
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| fullstop | someone, at some point, tagged something with a numeric value which is grokked as the newest revision, even though it is quite old. | 16:14 |
| halstead | tlwoerner, Added to https://www.yoctoproject.org/community/mailing-lists/ | 16:15 |
| tlwoerner | halstead: thanks! :_) | 16:15 |
| tlwoerner | :-) | 16:15 |
| * tlwoerner nose is out of join! | 16:15 | |
| tlwoerner | s/join/joint | 16:15 |
| qschulz | fullstop: I fail to understand your question | 16:16 |
| fullstop | qschulz: https://pastebin.com/raw/fx1emFjY | 16:17 |
| fullstop | There is a tag which is something like dlog553 | 16:17 |
| fullstop | the latest version is actually v1.29.35 | 16:17 |
| fullstop | but devtool update wants to move it to 553 because 553 > 1.29.35 | 16:18 |
| fullstop | I can go and delete the tags in git but that seems kind of harsh | 16:18 |
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| qschulz | fullstop: 553.1.29.35 is your only hope | 16:21 |
| qschulz | fullstop: (i can't answer your question :) ) | 16:21 |
| fullstop | :-) | 16:22 |
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| tlwoerner | fullstop: devtool has a way to say "use this branch" for the "devtool add" command, but i don't think there's an "ignore this tag/branch" option for "devtool upgrade" | 16:23 |
| tlwoerner | sounds like a good gsoc project.... ;-) | 16:23 |
| fullstop | magic is great as long as it works. | 16:24 |
| fullstop | and, yes, it sounds like a good gsoc project | 16:24 |
| armpit | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Stable_Release_and_LTS | 16:24 |
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| vmeson | fyi: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Yocto_3.1_Schedule | 16:31 |
| aehs29_ | gotta drop, have another call | 16:34 |
| aehs29_ | thanks guys | 16:34 |
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| tlwoerner | yptm: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/GSoC | 16:38 |
| dreyna | YPTM: minutes here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ly8nyhO14kDNnFcW2QskANXW3ZT7QwKC5wWVDg9dDH4 | 16:40 |
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| halstead | armpit, Shall I go ahead and add the docs list and repo as a patchwork project? | 16:44 |
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| fullstop | one more devtool question.. devtool upgrade recipe-name fails for a recipe which has files in a machine specific directory with "IsADirectoryError: [Errno 21] Is a directory:", where the directory printed is files/machine-name/. | 16:46 |
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| fullstop | https://pastebin.com/raw/Wnhj4wbq | 16:47 |
| fullstop | I have file://init/*.conf in my SRC_URI and different machines pull in different files. | 16:48 |
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| fullstop | this is now an after lunch problem. :-) | 16:54 |
| tgamblin | RP: gentle reminder about testing again with logrotate patch v3 | 16:58 |
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| RP | tgamblin: thanks, added locally | 17:35 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Yocto package generation without modifying distributions on targets (ARM & x86) <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60063317/yocto-package-generation-without-modifying-distributions-on-targets-arm-x86> | 18:28 |
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| kiwi_29 | hello. I m trying to boot my yocto hddimg generated from yocto build on virt-manager. It is core-image-minimal image. I m not able to find any configuration in virt-manager, which will boot this image. Is there any doc that I can use to boot the hddimg | 19:49 |
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| kiwi_29 | basically I want to boot my hddimg (or bzImage and ext4 rootfs) on qemu | 19:57 |
| RP | centos, its always the blummin centos workers :( | 20:00 |
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| * zeddii surived fosdem | 21:05 | |
| zeddii | now some Zzzzzzzz’s before I can do anything useful. | 21:05 |
| mischief1 | khem: around? | 21:05 |
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| mischief1 | can i override a variable for only one function? such as EXTRA_OEMAKE ? | 21:23 |
| roussinm | mischief1: What do you mean 'only one function' ? | 21:25 |
| roussinm | mischief1: you can override everything, I think... | 21:26 |
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| mischief1 | roussinm: i only want to change a variable for the duration of one function/task. | 21:27 |
| RP | mischief1: task overrides do exist | 21:30 |
| RP | EXTRA_OEMAKE_task-XXX = "y" iirc | 21:30 |
| roussinm | RP: So I could something like : EXTRA_OEMAKE_compile_append ? | 21:32 |
| RP | _append_task-compile | 21:32 |
| roussinm | oh I see! | 21:32 |
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| attieg | hi all o/ | 21:33 |
| attieg | I've been having a bit of trouble getting a kernel module to build out-of-tree... was wondering if the symptoms sound familiar to anyone... | 21:33 |
| attieg | I've tweaked the hello-mod example to demonstrate the issue - http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta-skeleton/recipes-kernel/hello-mod/files | 21:34 |
| mischief1 | i think i have to override the whole task anyway | 21:34 |
| attieg | I'm seeing: hello: Unknown symbol __class_create (err 0) | 21:34 |
| attieg | and other symbols | 21:34 |
| mischief1 | i'm trying to fix our recipe for backports which has a hardcoded invocation to /sbin/depmod.. so stupid | 21:34 |
| attieg | more info: https://gist.github.com/attie/e47055eaca1f28074e2858e9fe8225ab | 21:39 |
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| attieg | if anyone else has the ability to give it a go, that would be much appreciated | 21:39 |
| attieg | or any thoughts on what's going on here... | 21:39 |
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| palate | hello | 22:10 |
| palate | given that I have root access to a device, that I can run it in fastboot mode and flash an image, that I have the image (one *.ubi, one boot.img and one recovery.img), can I somehow reverse engineer my system and create a yocto distro that would work on it? | 22:12 |
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| palate | Nothing illegal planned: I would like a yocto image for my device, the manufacturer is fine with me playing around with it, but doesn't want to go through the trouble of giving me information about it. In other words, I have an NDA and I can do whatever I want to make a prototype, but it doesn't have to cost them anything xD | 22:14 |
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| palate | I am pretty new to Yocto, so I don't really realize what is needed to start from scratch. I would guess that I should try to get the kernel config from my device, so that I can compile it from Yocto, but then would that and the fact that it is an armv7 be enough for me to create a minimal image? | 22:15 |
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| RP | JPEW: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t222&id=d5be254b04ff3708981b4b6467d29223f13f4efa | 22:24 |
| * RP can't decide how horrible that is | 22:24 | |
| creich | palate: it's defenitley a very good start | 22:26 |
| creich | if you're able to rebuld the kernel and maybe reuse the uboot it should be booting already | 22:26 |
| creich | from there it should be a piece of cake ;) | 22:26 |
| creich | did you find the config information on the original root filesystem? | 22:27 |
| creich | and maybe start with the same kernel version | 22:27 |
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| creich | it might be necessary to find a vendor specific kernel fork somewhere | 22:28 |
| creich | usually vendors provide their own layers containing BSP meta-data | 22:28 |
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| kiwi_29 | hello. I m trying to boot my yocto hddimg generated from yocto build on virt-manager. It is core-image-minimal image. I m not able to find any configuration in virt-manager, which will boot this image. Is there any doc that I can use to boot the hddimg | 22:30 |
| kiwi_29 | basically I want to boot my hddimg (or bzImage and ext4 rootfs) on qemu | 22:30 |
| palate | creich: I'm not sure how to get that information :/. So the uboot would be this boot.img, right? I have no clue, but my guess would be that boot.img is the bootloader (possibly uboot), recovery.img is the one that gets me in fastboot mode, and the *.ubi image is the actual image. And you're saying that I could just try to create my own *.ubi without caring about the boot and recovery. Correct? | 22:32 |
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| palate | creich: first I'd like to have a way to know if I'm right about the partitioning (i.e. "recovery.img" would bring the fastboot system). But I have no clue how to check that | 22:34 |
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| palate | Well actually I know that with fastboot I flash a "system", a "boot" and a "recovery" partition. I'm not clear yet what the recovery would be | 22:41 |
| kriive | Is setting TCLIBC="musl" in DISTRO.conf sufficient to enable musl on my distro? | 22:46 |
| kriive | LetoThe2nd: good work on the live coding videos | 22:46 |
| khem | kriive: yes | 22:46 |
| khem | its as simple as that | 22:46 |
| roussinm | kriive: Where are those live coding videos? | 22:47 |
| kriive | roussinm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-8g0TPVVGg | 22:47 |
| kriive | You can find more on the Yocto Projects's youtube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2_mG3h-AxxK2oz08j2bz2g | 22:47 |
| roussinm | kriive: thanks! | 22:48 |
| creich | palate: first steps could be to boot the default system and tr to gather as much information as possible | 23:04 |
| creich | or at least mount the image if possible | 23:04 |
| creich | do you have access to the device running the default sw? | 23:05 |
| creich | in any way? | 23:05 |
| palate | creich: yes, through adb shell, I am root there | 23:05 |
| creich | ah ok, so it's an android running there? | 23:05 |
| creich | i don't know much about android configurations, but having a root shell is a very good starting point | 23:06 |
| palate | creich: nope, linux image. I don't know why they have fastboot and adb, nor where that comes from | 23:06 |
| creich | su you can get your kernel version and some extra info by 'uname -a' | 23:07 |
| creich | ok, maybe even better. but does not matter too much | 23:07 |
| creich | in any case it's a linux base :) | 23:07 |
| attieg | creich: sorry to ask again, I was wondering if you saw my query about out-of-tree modules and unknown symbol errors...? | 23:09 |
| creich | attieg: might have seen, but forgotten about it. sorry ;) | 23:10 |
| creich | i can have a look | 23:10 |
| attieg | ha, no problem | 23:10 |
| attieg | would be much appreciated, thank you! | 23:10 |
| attieg | happy to share the info again if you don't have it, it's not too far back ^^ | 23:11 |
| attieg | fundamentally, this: https://gist.github.com/attie/e47055eaca1f28074e2858e9fe8225ab | 23:11 |
| creich | yep found it in the logs | 23:11 |
| attieg | building in-tree is fine, zero problems... but I'd like to keep it out-of-tree if possible | 23:11 |
| palate | creich: right: Linux mpp 3.18.31-ga339981ec18d-... #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Feb 13 09:57:43 CET 2019 armv7l GNU/Linux | 23:12 |
| palate | creich: so it's a pretty old kernel 3.18.31, right? | 23:12 |
| attieg | palate: yeah... that's pretty old... the <gXXXXX> bit is a commit ID (some changes after the 3.18.31 tag) | 23:12 |
| attieg | might be worth looking out for it, though I wouldn't be super hopeful about finding anything :-( | 23:13 |
| palate | attieg: hmm, I'll try | 23:14 |
| attieg | palate: what's the SOC? a rokchip part? | 23:14 |
| creich | attieg: never tried out-of-tree build, but we can still try to find out ;) | 23:15 |
| creich | so you've made an in-tree build already that worked you say? | 23:15 |
| palate | attieg: the image says apq8009 in its name. From this page it seems like the only one listed is a snapdragon 212: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_computers | 23:15 |
| attieg | creich: correct - if I place my files (or the modified hello files) into the tree, and build them there, it works... | 23:16 |
| creich | have you checked dmesg as stated within the error message you got during modprobe? | 23:16 |
| attieg | the snippet in the gist is all the output I get (that's a serial console, and running dmesg gives no additional info) | 23:16 |
| palate | attieg: so if that was https://www.intrinsyc.com/computing-platforms/open-q-212a-system-on-module-som/, it says that it has "OE Yocto support" | 23:17 |
| attieg | I did notice, that from modinfo, there are a couple of differences - for example my *big* driver has dependancy on the CAN module, which isn't listed when building out-of-tree | 23:17 |
| attieg | ... but the dependancy is listed when building in-tree | 23:17 |
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| creich | attieg: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29578931/unknown-symbol-class-create-err-0 | 23:18 |
| creich | have you seen this? | 23:18 |
| attieg | creich: yeah, license is all good | 23:18 |
| attieg | i also checked the license in the recipe / *.bb just incase that was being considered (ew)... but i've copied the hello-mod as exactly as I can | 23:19 |
| attieg | (hence the tweaks to a simple hello-mod example... even that doesn't work out) | 23:19 |
| creich | hmm, ok. just a lucky shoot ^^ | 23:19 |
| creich | ok | 23:19 |
| creich | minimal examples are always good :) | 23:20 |
| attieg | palate: ah, neat! is that just using the same SOC? or is that actually your target? | 23:20 |
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| attieg | creich: yeah :) if nothing else, it allows someone else with a handy yocto & board to give it a go too... | 23:20 |
| attieg | I'm very suspicious of my environment at the moment - the mfg bsp, etc... | 23:21 |
| creich | as i said, i never tried out-of-tree build. but i could give it a try | 23:21 |
| palate | attieg: no clue: I have the device and I am trying to figure out what it is to make a yocto image for it | 23:22 |
| creich | let me check, but i should have a complete workspace with a minimal running bsp and shell ready to insert some stuff | 23:22 |
| attieg | if you have the time and stuff to hand, that would be very kind... but no pressure | 23:22 |
| khem | RP: w.r.t. bison issue, do you know if AB slaves have libunistring installed on host ? | 23:22 |
| khem | RP: I can reliably reproduce it more on systems without libunistring | 23:23 |
| attieg | palate: is the thing in the photo on that page you linked the thing on your desk? | 23:24 |
| RP | khem: how do I test? | 23:24 |
| palate | attieg: well, I would need to open the device. It's some kind of gamepad. Should I try to open it? | 23:25 |
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| khem | ssh into the node and check if /usr/include/uniwidth.h exists | 23:25 |
| palate | attieg: creich: btw I have a /proc/config.gz, so I guess I should be able to extract kernel config from that, shouldn't I? | 23:26 |
| RP | khem: pokybuild@ubuntu1804-ty:~$ ls /usr/include/uniwidth.h -la | 23:26 |
| RP | ls: cannot access '/usr/include/uniwidth.h': No such file or director | 23:26 |
| creich | palate: yep, that's a very good start | 23:26 |
| creich | if you could find the specific commit of the sources somewhere you're almost done ;) | 23:26 |
| RP | khem: a quick scan on debian and centos workers says no such header | 23:27 |
| palate | creich: ohoh, looking for that then | 23:27 |
| creich | attieg: ok, have to run a freh build which can take a few minutes, but i am preparing a ws :) | 23:27 |
| khem | RP:ok so it seems the builders dont have it ? | 23:27 |
| creich | s/freh/fresh/ | 23:28 |
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| khem | RP: my failures are on ubuntu 18.04 and debian 10 | 23:28 |
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| khem | which is all machines I have access to, it works ok on archlinux box | 23:28 |
| khem | but that does not count | 23:28 |
| RP | khem: looks like the workers do not | 23:29 |
| attieg | creich: thanks! | 23:29 |
| creich | yw :) | 23:31 |
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| khem | RP: it seems it never showed up on autobuilders ? | 23:36 |
| RP | khem: no | 23:36 |
| RP | khem: which is why I'm a bit puzzled by it | 23:37 |
| khem | yeah I see it it on different machines | 23:37 |
| khem | intermittent though | 23:38 |
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| palate | creich: still cloning the linux kernel to try to find that commit hash... | 23:49 |
| palate | creich: is it important that I get exactly that commit? | 23:49 |
| palate | i.e. 3.18.31-ga339981ec18d-509563-ga9381f5e68f7 | 23:49 |
| creich | palate: most probably there are some specific changes necessary to get the hardware running (drivers) | 23:50 |
| creich | it really depends | 23:50 |
| attieg | creich: i'm going to have to leave for today... i'll check in tomorrow - thanks for your help | 23:51 |
| creich | if you're sure about the hardware and can find some documentation and thus the drivers within the mainline kernel it should be ok to use a close version | 23:51 |
| creich | attieg: ok, just give me a ping | 23:51 |
| creich | i let the workspace run through, so we can go forward tomorrow :) | 23:52 |
| attieg | will do, many thanks! | 23:52 |
| palate | creich: Like I could try to extract the kernel options from /proc/config.gz, take 3.18.something, create an *.ubi image and try to flash it as "system"? | 23:52 |
| creich | palate: sure, you can try that first | 23:54 |
| creich | maybe you don't even have to build an image yet | 23:54 |
| palate | creich: what do you mean? | 23:55 |
| creich | i don't know about fastboot, but in u-boot for example, you can interrupt the boot process and make it load some kernel and device tree from tftp | 23:55 |
| creich | with that you could at least check if you kernel will boot toll the point it should panic due to a missing rootfs | 23:55 |
| creich | but you could avoid the whole image building process which can take quite some time and bring it's own sources for mistakes | 23:56 |
| creich | so minimal viable should be a simple boot of the kernel itself i'd say | 23:56 |
| palate | right | 23:57 |
| palate | so I need to learn how to build the kernel only with yocto, and then how it works in fastboot. | 23:57 |
| palate | From some fastboot documentation, it seemed like the "boot" partition is flashed with boot.img and contains the bootloader and the kernel (if that could be) | 23:58 |
| creich | for that you can build the kernel without yocto if you like | 23:58 |
| creich | ah, ok. | 23:58 |
| creich | than you might need to build an image | 23:58 |
| creich | but as i said, i don*t know fastboot... check if there is any option to boot via network or smth easy | 23:59 |
| palate | creich: but yocto will give me exactly one image, right? And I can set it to be *.ubi. Or could I get a *.ubi with the system and a boot.img? | 23:59 |
| creich | or if you feel confident in building an image, you surely can do that too | 23:59 |
| palate | creich: right | 23:59 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: WebOS Build - Compilation faile - grub-efi_2.02 failed <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60067153/webos-build-compilation-faile-grub-efi-2-02-failed> | 23:59 |
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