Tuesday, 2020-02-11

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khemarmpit: perhaps Bruce should add these defconfigs to kmeta I have already sent him LE ones00:11
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mischiefwhy does multiconfig need different tmpdirs?00:21
khemcanonical triplets could conflict00:22
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mischiefkhem: what if i only have one triplet and one distro but multiple machines and images?00:24
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khemthen you dont need multiconfig00:33
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khemwell sort of you do, if your final image is collection of images built for different machines00:35
mischiefno, i don't need that. maybe i misunderstood multiconfig.00:48
mischiefi wanted to see if the build could be made faster by building for multiple MACHINE at once with a multiconfig.00:49
mischiefwe don't need to make a final image which is a collection of images00:49
mischiefjust N machines * M images00:49
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armpitkhem, you sent Bruce kernel-cache changes for Endiness options ?02:12
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khemarmpit: no, I sent the defconfig that I am carrying he said he would do the needed to turn it into linux-yocto tooling02:45
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armpitkhem, hehe so you out sourced to Canada : )03:36
khem:)03:38
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yannI'm trying to generate an extensible sdk (only used basic sdk till now), and run into different issues: on CI it is instead a failure like https://www.at91.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=26235&p=54861 - and on my dev box, where I wanted to investigate that problem,  I get instead something ressembling https://gist.github.com/kraj/9ee0302407d29fdf17e7db098256f71e - both occurences according to google appear very rare and without a start of a clue.  What could be wrong09:48
yannhere ?09:48
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creichyann: maybe you could explain your steps till the error, so we could reproduce?10:56
creichi am not sure about your specific error, but maybe while reproducing the setup we could find out10:56
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yanncreich: it's not really easy because all involved layers are not public - I can try to reproduce with public layers only, though11:06
yannthe problem in the CI does not look that hard, so I'm investigating that one remotely first, I'll get to the other one afterwards11:09
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angelo__how can i check what recipe triggers a do_image_wic ?11:50
LetoThe2ndangelo__: probably each recipe that inherits core-image, if your IMAGE_FSTYPES include wic11:52
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yannlooks like nativesdk-qemu-helper is installed in sdk-ext sysroot when populate_sdk_ext's install_tools get run12:22
yoctiNew news from stackoverflow: Rauc updating fails on Jeton Nano with Yocto/poky Zeus <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60168471/rauc-updating-fails-on-jeton-nano-with-yocto-poky-zeus>12:28
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angelo__LetoThe2nd, thanks. Can i disable a wik image production from an upper layer ?12:57
angelo__*wic12:57
yannangelo__:  you can set IMAGE_FSTYPES_remove = "wic"12:59
yanneg. at distro level12:59
yannor in a .bbappend for the image12:59
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angelo__yann, ok thanks13:12
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yoctiNew news from stackoverflow: CouchDB Replication / Timeout Error <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32799793/couchdb-replication-timeout-error>13:28
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yanncreich: so the oe-find-native-sysroot issue is caused by  nativesdk-qemu-helper bieing installed, and this comes from inheriting populate_sdk_qt5 in my image .bbclass, via nativesdk-packagegroup-qt5-toolchain-host and nativesdk-packagegroup-sdk-host14:00
yannDoes this mean we can't generate a sdk-ext from an image inheriting populate_sdk_qt5 ?  I precisely added this to get qt5 support in the basic sdk.  What's wrong here ?14:02
yann(using sumo)14:02
kpoHey, I've been wondering, is it possible (and viable) for yocto to build firmwares for bare metal embedded? I've got linux box that has OS built by yocto, and this box has multiple bare metal MCUs connected. I can flash each baremetal using bootloader from this linux box. Can yocto build those bare metal firmwares using other toolchain? E.g. arm-none-gnueabi - i suppose that it should build this bare metal cross toolchain first.14:16
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LetoThe2ndkpo: https://twitter.com/TheYoctoJester/status/122207137586471731214:17
kpoBut I'd like to have all modules and linux box at the same git tag, type bitbake everything-image and build everything - from OS to bare metal firmwares.14:17
kpoLetoThe2nd: thx :)14:18
LetoThe2ndkpo: basically you want to combine this baremetal approach and https://twitter.com/TheYoctoJester/status/122713452285408051314:19
LetoThe2ndkpo: so yes, it can be done.14:19
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matthewzmdi am getting a very strange error when trying to runqemu a core-image-sato15:31
matthewzmdrun qemu: Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display "localhost:13.0".15:31
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matthewzmddo you guys know what's going on?15:32
rburtonyou're trying to runqemu on a remote host?15:33
rburtonlocalhost:13 suggests that you're SSHing and the error suggests that your local X server is not very good15:34
LetoThe2ndrburton: ++ for politically awesome answer15:34
matthewzmdrburton: yes, i am building on a remote host15:36
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rburtonmatthewzmd: what is the local machine?15:38
* rburton puts money on windows15:38
matthewzmd;) it's manjaro15:38
matthewzmda manjaro kde to be exact15:41
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rburtonqemu over remote X really does suck even if it works, you'll be better to copy the image to your local machine15:46
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armpitYPTM - armin is on15:57
dl9pfYPTM - Jan-Simon is on15:57
tlwoernerYPTM - TrevorW is on15:58
smurrayYPTM - ScottM is on15:59
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tlwoernerYPTM notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ly8nyhO14kDNnFcW2QskANXW3ZT7QwKC5wWVDg9dDH4/edit16:01
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tlwoernerdreyna: randy is asking about "python2/3"16:08
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matthewzmdrburton: i re-sshed with -Y flag, it worked ;)16:13
matthewzmddunno why -X causes the problem tho16:13
rburtonbecause bits get turned off with just -X16:14
rburton(many distros make -Y the default)16:14
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matthewzmdi see.16:14
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PinkSnakeStupid question but not clear in docs, site.conf ( with compagny proxy + credentials) should be in build dir or we can put it inside distro folder ?16:15
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rburtonPinkSnake: it can be anywhere16:18
PinkSnakerburton thx!16:18
rburtonPinkSnake: if you have a company layer with your distro in then conf/site.conf in that layer is deal16:19
rburtonis ideal16:19
PinkSnakerburton I will do that, thx for reply ;)16:19
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khemYPTM - khem is on16:22
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aehs29YPTM Alejandro just joined16:25
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RPtlwoerner: have a link to the page for here?16:30
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tlwoernerhttps://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/GSoC/Ideas16:31
RPtlwoerner: thanks16:33
RPJPEW: https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2020-01/16:37
RPWe had a mention in an earlier newsletter too16:38
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armpitYPTM- is over16:50
kpowhat is this YPTM?16:50
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tgamblinkpo: Yocto Project Technical Meeting, approximately16:52
tgamblins/Technical/Team16:53
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rburtonkpo: basically a status update and discussion forum16:56
rburtonweekly thing, on zoom at https://zoom.us/j/99089271216:57
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khemcore-image-sato-sdk-ptest seems to pull in rpm testcases into mix even when rpm is not the package backend any ideas ?17:00
armpithttps://www.yoctoproject.org/public-virtual-meetings/17:00
khemTraceback (most recent call last):17:00
khem  File "/mnt/b/yoe/sources/openembedded-core/meta/lib/oeqa/core/decorator/__init__.py", line 36, in wrapped_f17:00
khem    return func(*args, **kwargs)17:00
khem  File "/mnt/b/yoe/sources/openembedded-core/meta/lib/oeqa/runtime/cases/rpm.py", line 31, in test_rpm_query17:00
khem    self.assertEqual(status, 0, msg=msg)17:00
khemAssertionError: 1 != 0 : status and output: 1 and package rpm is not installedy17:00
armpitis there checkes to see if rpm is installed before it runs ?17:01
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RPI thought it only enabled these tests for rpm images17:54
khemRP: seems not to be the case, eg. build core-image-sato-sdk/qemux86-64 with plain OE-Core and you will see the issue17:55
RPkhem: doesn't the autobuilder do that though?17:55
khemcore-image-sato-sdk-ptest I meant17:56
RPkhem: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/76/builds/1545/steps/8/logs/step1c is sato-sdk with non-rpm17:56
khemsato-sdk works ok its sato-sdk-ptest that fails17:56
RPkhem: hmm, the ptest image might be pulling in something that confuses things17:56
khemyeah17:57
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khemand another issue I see is17:57
khemAssertionError: None is not true : Some systemd units failed:17:57
khem  UNIT                LOAD   ACTIVE SUB    DESCRIPTION17:57
khem‚óŹ mdmon@md125.service loaded failed failed MD Metadata Monitor on /dev/md15217:57
khemwhich fails systemd.SystemdBasicTests.test_systemd_failed17:58
khemI guess mdadm gets included into core-image-sato-sdk-ptest17:58
JaMaI was seeing this mdmon@md125.service as well lately18:00
JaMais it normal that core-image-sato-ptest-fast takes 2+ hours?18:01
khemJaMa:yes18:02
khemif you are using kvm then its faster18:03
khemI think it will be good to try inserting -smp option to qemu as well to give it more than 1 core, right now it uses 1core+2g-ram18:03
khemRP: opkg->libsolv->rpm thats the dep chain18:08
khemonce rpm is pulled in then the selftest checks if rpm is installed on the target and assumes it should run rpm basic tests18:08
khemRP: perhaps it should check for if rpm is not only installed but also has rpm database on target18:09
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khemtrying this out https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/commit/?h=yoe/mut&id=21161083a12544b29f23b3756dccb67eaf3dcdde18:28
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RPJaMa: are you using kvm? That helps a lot18:29
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JaMaRP: I'm using default poky without any changes (in another try to reproduce the issues you were seeing on autobuilder with my artifacts changes)18:50
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JaMaso I wasn't using kvm18:51
JaMagrep kvm tmp/work/qemux86_64-poky-linux/core-image-sato-ptest-fast/1.0-r0/temp/log.do_testimage18:51
JaMaDEBUG: Not using kvm for runqemu18:51
JaMatrying with QEMU_USE_KVM = 'True'18:52
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JaMain local.conf now18:52
RPJaMa: we enable that on the autobuilder. You can see the exact config the AB uses in the stdio log FWIW18:56
RPJaMa: its really slow without kvm18:56
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JaMayes, significantly faster with kvm :)19:05
JaMalog.core-image-sato-ptest-fast.testimage-2020-02-10:core-image-sato-ptest-fast () - Ran 62 tests in 9568.956s19:05
JaMalog.core-image-sato-ptest-fast.testimage-2020-02-10:core-image-sato-ptest-fast - OK - All required tests passed (successes=47, skipped=14, failures=0, errors=0)19:05
JaMalog.core-image-sato-ptest-fast.testimage-2020-02-10b:core-image-sato-ptest-fast () - Ran 62 tests in 467.540s19:05
JaMalog.core-image-sato-ptest-fast.testimage-2020-02-10b:core-image-sato-ptest-fast - OK - All required tests passed (successes=47, skipped=14, failures=0, errors=0)19:05
JaMaI've compied the config fragments from autobuilder before to my nodistro build, now I was trying with unmodified poky, that's why I've missed the QEMU_USE_KVM switch19:06
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yannI documented by sdk_ext issue in https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/issues/284#issuecomment-584833536, as an example of what the missing "how to sdk" doc in meta-qt5 offers, but this still seems to be a poky-level issue, where populate_sdk_ext.bbclass and nativesdk-packagegroup-sdk-host.bb don't play well together, right ?20:27
yannis meta-qt5 doing something wrong here, and how can we do things right instead ?20:29
JaMaI don't use/support qt5 SDK at all, someone else will need to step in for that20:32
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yannwell, the essential thing would be for me to gather some insight on sdk inner workings, really :)20:40
yannoh, that issue seems to be fixed in thud, through 2499589fb60ca4fce0b425bc239532378886feb7 - I should have looked first, really20:48
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tlwoernerRP: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/GSoC/Ideas#build_improvements21:00
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vic_noob here; my recipe builds fine and the 'package' and 'packages-split' directories are being populated with the expected files, but it doesn't generate a .rpm file. I've set PACKAGE_CLASSES ?= "package_rpm". Any ideas? Thanks21:18
yanntlwoerner: I love the " build improvements" subject. I've been thinking for some time that one such improvement would be to add job-server communication between bitbake and do_compile classes, to avoid having as many gnu-make invocations as we have cores, each thinking they have all cores for themselves21:21
yannlooks like there is some interest (though little) in adding gnu-make job-server support to ninja - could not find that for meson though21:23
tlwoerneryann: you don't like running your machine with a loadavg of 200+? ;-)21:26
tlwoerneri.e. multiple bitbake tasks each thinking they have the whole cpu to themselves21:26
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yannI don't even tell you about a server with multiple lxc containers, each running one or more gitlab-ci runner, to run the aforementionned bitbake runs :)21:30
yanngood parallelism requires good communication :)21:30
JaMaif you have some interesting build machine, please try to share the build time results in https://github.com/shr-project/test-oe-build-time I hope to get Threadripper 3990x and dual Epyc 7742 server results soon21:32
RPtlwoerner: thanks, I tweaked it a bit21:38
tlwoernerRP: excellent, thanks!21:38
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mischiefwhen bitbake runs, it prints a 'Build Configuration' dumping a lot of version information and so on. is there a way to programmatically access that information, or insert it into the final image?23:04
rburtonmischief: image-buildinfo class23:11
mischiefthanks23:15
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Ad0hm do_devshell hangs for some reason on (bitbake -c devshell virtual/kernel)23:25
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likewiseAre you in tmux?23:50
likewiseAd0: I think tmux w/ devshell or menuconfig can be troublesome, at least in a past release. If so, try without tmux/screen.23:51
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Ad0ok thanks like2wise23:55
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