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| OutBackDingo | is there a bitbake recipe for toaster ??? | 02:44 |
| smurray | OutBackDingo: it's part of the bitbake tree | 02:46 |
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| moto-timo | OutBackdingo: toaster is built into bitbake | 02:55 |
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| OutBackDingo | smurray: yes but it still has dependencies... i need to build a cotainer image for it with all the deps inside | 03:17 |
| OutBackDingo | Successfully installed Django-2.2.14 beautifulsoup4-4.9.1 soupsieve-2.0.1 sqlparse-0.3.1 | 03:17 |
| OutBackDingo | so python3 pip3 and these | 03:17 |
| smurray | OutBackDingo: moto-timo is probably your go to, I suspect that might be something they did for the CROPS containers at one point | 03:18 |
| OutBackDingo | smurray: what is moto-timo ? never heard of it | 03:22 |
| smurray | OutBackDingo: he's one of the other people on the channel, he replied to you earlier | 03:22 |
| smurray | OutBackDingo: he works at Intel, their CROPS container image project provides images for acting as build hosts | 03:23 |
| OutBackDingo | smurray: thx | 03:26 |
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| OutBackDingo | moto-timo: github repo for a crops toaster image? | 03:26 |
| OutBackDingo | ahh right... nevermind | 03:33 |
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| OutBackDingo | is there a bitbake recipe for nvidia x11 nv / nouveau anyplace ? | 06:01 |
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| calvin_ | hello, I am building the "myhello" example in the docs for a open embedded image (for RPi) and for some strange reason, my final image does not have "myhello" binary in /usr/bi | 07:41 |
| calvin_ | hello, I am building the "myhello" example in the docs for a open embedded image (for RPi) and for some strange reason, my final image does not have "myhello" binary in /usr/bin | 07:41 |
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| calvinx | How can I go about debugging this? | 07:42 |
| mckoan | calvinx: you likely forgot the install step | 07:43 |
| mckoan | calvinx: https://github.com/koansoftware/meta-training | 07:44 |
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| qschulz | halstead: hello, is it possible to revert changes in a bugzilla entry? Someone took over one of my bug report and changed it to something completely different | 08:21 |
| qschulz | halstead: see https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_activity.cgi?id=13865 | 08:22 |
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| OutBackDingo | mckoan: LOL... i see you use alot of toradex repos also | 08:26 |
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| mckoan | OutBackDingo: that was only a early try to get rid of Angstrom :-D but fortunately they decided to switch to Yocto | 08:28 |
| LetoThe2nd | howdy! | 08:28 |
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| qschulz | oi mate | 08:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | wazzup dudes? | 08:33 |
| * LetoThe2nd buts on supersized basketball shirt and cap of other club in a weird angle | 08:33 | |
| * OutBackDingo needs an nv nouveau driver for X11 | 08:47 | |
| OutBackDingo | mckoan: i worked for Toradex | 08:47 |
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| LetoThe2nd | any cool dirty secrets you wanna share? :P | 08:48 |
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| mckoan | OutBackDingo: cool! What's your name? | 08:51 |
| OutBackDingo | LetoThe2nd: noooooo... :) | 08:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | OutBackDingo: boring! | 08:53 |
| OutBackDingo | LOL | 08:54 |
| OutBackDingo | ive been called worse .... :) | 08:54 |
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| LetoThe2nd | thought maybe that all the ground coffee in the companys production floor was made of kangaroo poop, or such? you now, the really cool stories :P | 08:54 |
| OutBackDingo | mckoan: your in Italy ? | 08:55 |
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| OutBackDingo | We lived in Bra, Piedmont, Italy | 08:56 |
| OutBackDingo | now the Netherlands | 08:56 |
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| PaowZ | hi there ! | 08:58 |
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| mckoan | OutBackDingo: yes Bergamo, Italy | 09:23 |
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| tenzin | hello | 09:57 |
| qschulz | tenzin: /me waves | 09:59 |
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| tenzin | ah i am following LetoThe2nd | 10:02 |
| tenzin | any good book recommended #yocto? | 10:03 |
| PaowZ | well.. I guess you have sufficient material to get started.. follow the manual, follow the jester and get your hands dirty.. | 10:05 |
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| LetoThe2nd | tenzin: probably Chris Simmons' Mastering Embedded Linux Programming. The versions are a bit dated, but the general concepts should apply | 10:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | the Embedded Linux Primer is currently in the refresh process, as far as I know. | 10:06 |
| PaowZ | LetoThe2nd: interesting.. I got it and I observed some discrepancies with the current streams.. | 10:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | PaowZ: like which for example? | 10:08 |
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| Rob123 | Hi there, can someone show me the right direction on how to build a SDK containing libraries without debug symbols? I used the variable SDKIMAGE_FEATURES_append = " staticdev-pkgs" in my bb file. | 10:15 |
| mckoan | tenzin: the *best* book about Yocto is from Rudolf Streif https://www.yoctoproject.org/learn/ | 10:15 |
| LetoThe2nd | mckoan: but even more dated, AFAIK | 10:17 |
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| mihai- | is yp.org down? | 10:19 |
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| LetoThe2nd | mihai-: nope. https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ | 10:20 |
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| mihai- | cool | 10:21 |
| mihai- | thanks | 10:21 |
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| tenzin | thanks all | 10:23 |
| tenzin | ;) | 10:23 |
| tenzin | learning mode ;) | 10:23 |
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| icewolf | tenzin: While learning I found yocto moved forward quite fast the last years. Docs are not always up-to-date, especially the wiki howtos. I would agree to PaowZ: Grab the official manual and first adapt an existing application recipe to a newer version or choose other configuration switches. Then implement your own recipe for an application from scratch, after that dive into kernel recipes and then into your own images. | 13:01 |
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| icewolf | And never be afraid to read the build logs and scripts if something goes awefully wrong. | 13:02 |
| qschulz | icewolf: wikis aren't really "official" and aren't even reviewed I think? But for sure, if there's any discrepency between reality and docs, it should be ideally fixed or at least reported | 13:07 |
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| icewolf | The entries I had in mind had disclaimers like: This entry was written for yocto 1.12 and is currently updated to reflect current situation. So tha author knew it was outdated. | 13:19 |
| icewolf | But yes, my statement was a bit ambiguous, the official documentation is very good. It just is sometimes to mighty and theoretical for an absolute beginner. | 13:21 |
| qschulz | icewolf: I think we can all agree the learning curve is steep at the beginning but once that knowledge threshold is passed, the manuals are absolute delights IMO. | 13:23 |
| icewolf | qschulz: Definitly | 13:24 |
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| fullstop | Most linux distributions ship pppd with a patch which adds "ifname" as a parameter, but yocto does not include this patch. Is this something that is intentionally not included or is it something that would be a welcome inclusion? | 14:19 |
| fullstop | It is not included upstream because not all platforms which can run pppd have the ability to rename interfaces. | 14:19 |
| fray | I don't think anyone has requested it. Seems reasonable as a patch | 14:20 |
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| qschulz | halstead: gentle ping about the rewritten bugzilla entry. I could manually undo each change but eh, if there's something more radical and cleaner, I'll take it :) | 14:39 |
| qschulz | halstead: oopsie, might have been a dick about it, don't know which coast you're living, but PST is still very early in the morning. So... Sorry for the impatient ping :) | 14:41 |
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| tlwoerner | YPTM: trevor woerner is on | 14:56 |
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| smurray | YPTM: Scott Murray is on | 15:01 |
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| halstead | qschulz, No easy way to revert. I think I can undo the changes. | 15:03 |
| bantu | splatch: Thanks for the feedback. Not sure it's worth the added complexity, but I shall look into kas. Feel free to let me know how your Gitlab integration is going. | 15:04 |
| bantu | khem: I suppose I will give submodules a try just to see how it's behaving. Right now everything can be changed rather easily. | 15:05 |
| qschulz | halstead: fortunately, only a few mail recipients and the topic was changed, so don't spend too much time on this if it's not a one liner ;) | 15:05 |
| halstead | qschulz, I'll spend five minutes or so setting it back. | 15:06 |
| halstead | qschulz, There will still be the unrelated comments. | 15:06 |
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| bantu | What are folks using for robust updates? is btrfs send-receive a thing yet? I briefly looked into mender. They seem to be using an A/B firmware approach. This seems to require at least 2x storage (for kernel/rootfs only though). | 15:10 |
| tlwoerner | RP: you can read the notes later ;-) | 15:11 |
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| TalleyHo | @bantu swupdate is greatness https://github.com/sbabic/swupdate - it can use a/b update, or download-apply-reboot method | 15:12 |
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| qschulz | halstead: ugly but will do, thanks for doing it :) | 15:16 |
| halstead | qschulz, It is ugly. I could blank the unwanted comments in the database but I don't think it's worth the time it would take. | 15:17 |
| qschulz | halstead: definitely not ;) | 15:17 |
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| qschulz | paulbarker: RP: I think we can close https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13865 since https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/meta/classes/base.bbclass?h=master&id=edbf8d3999126e3c271a47dada54d1724f59f573 is in master? | 15:20 |
| paulbarker | qschulz: Not sure why that was assigned to me, not something I remember looking at | 15:23 |
| TalleyHo | Has anyone used meta-java w/ dunfell for aarch64? fmacro-prefix-map seems to break it - introduced here https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=1bd04681e191dcd2f8e0bc0a70207cab7a61bfeb; but I'm way out of my league on how jdk is building | 15:24 |
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| kergoth | khem: any insight on where i'd have to look in the gcc build to fix/enable x32 standalone | 15:55 |
| kergoth | hmm, maybe i'll just fix the toolchain-user and toolchain-system tests to also test the multilib configurations, but i'm not a unittest expert either | 15:57 |
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| d__ep__th | what is the meeting schedule | 16:09 |
| d__ep__th | for yocto? | 16:09 |
| JPEW | d__ep__th: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/YoctoCalendar | 16:19 |
| JPEW | d__ep__th: And the OE calendar is https://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Calendar | 16:19 |
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| khem | kergoth: share the errors perhaps I can have some ideas | 16:31 |
| d__ep__th | thanks JPEW(y) | 16:35 |
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| RP | qschulz: I think it can be resolved as fixed | 17:14 |
| RP | rburton: "We are pleased to announce beta release 2.69b of GNU Autoconf." | 17:16 |
| jpuhlman | Updates to autoconf, always fun. | 17:23 |
| khem | heh new autoconf release - does it support AI/ML now ? | 17:29 |
| khem | oh it always did I see | 17:29 |
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| rburton | RP: remind me of that tomorrow | 18:00 |
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| emrius | hey, not 100% yocto related but I'm still wondering: My image lacks `/etc/hosts`. Is something wrong with my built or is it ok if I don't have that file? | 18:20 |
| emrius | ... I mean everything seems to be running | 18:21 |
| emrius | ... Finally :) What a glorious day! | 18:21 |
| emrius | Anybody around to celebrate with me? =D | 18:21 |
| paulg | emrius, I would have expected some boiler plate lines for localhost in /etc/hosts and not an empty file, but I don't have an uninstalled image to check with. | 18:27 |
| emrius | Ok, thanks for the feedback! I'll have a later look into it | 18:28 |
| paulg | probably worthwhile checking out - in case it points to a bigger issue with your install. | 18:29 |
| fullstop | emrius: I have /etc/hosts | 18:29 |
| emrius | Yes better to be on the save side. Damn... Okay probably I'll postpone the celebration to tomorrow | 18:30 |
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| JPEW | emrius: Good! I would celebrate, but It's too early for beer here... | 18:41 |
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| fullstop | JPEW: What time is it there? | 18:50 |
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| JPEW | fullstop: 13:42 | 18:54 |
| JPEW | Err, 13:54. Not sure how 42 came out | 18:55 |
| fullstop | I was trying to figure out which time zone you could possibly be in... :-) | 18:55 |
| JPEW | It's a really weird timezone, OK? | 18:55 |
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| fullstop | In that case, beer is appropriate at all hours. ;-) | 18:55 |
| JPEW | fullstop: I'll just have some coffee instead | 19:04 |
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