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khem | halstead: it seems patchwork stopped receiving emails from oe-devel ml last it processed were emails from 10/17 | 04:01 |
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khem | seems same issue for other projecrs on patchwork.openembedded.org | 04:02 |
halstead | khem: thanks for the notice. I've been looking into this today. I don't have a solution yet. | 04:02 |
khem | ok no worries | 04:03 |
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* moto-timo jumps on the patchwork isn't listening bandwagon a couple hours ago | 04:29 | |
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khem | rburton: jonmason https://errors.yoctoproject.org/Errors/Details/510124/ I think meta-arm needs to add musl to its test matrix | 05:20 |
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halstead | khem, I believe I've fixed the problem and new patches will reach patchwork. I'll need to add the missing patches tomorrow. | 06:08 |
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mckoan | good morning | 06:33 |
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LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 06:36 |
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khem | halstead: yes seems to work | 06:51 |
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rburton | khem: optee is a bit of a pain. working on an automated test matrix now. | 07:13 |
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qschulz | RP: you forgot one patch (sent a RESEND yesterday)... and that was actually a "happy accident" since it made me check and I had forgotten to send one patch :D | 08:05 |
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RP | qschulz: I saw it and queued it, thanks | 08:28 |
RP | qschulz: thanks for verifying. I'll do better to handle them as they come in going forward. I was confused over what I was doing vs what nico was doing | 08:28 |
qschulz | RP: absolutely no worries. Also, as you said, docs can be merged later and you've already a lot to do for the upcoming release. Thanks for merging the patches! | 08:30 |
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ada3 | . I want to add a line "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to /etc/resolv.conf. I tried two ways. | 08:33 |
ada3 | How can I modify the /etc/resolv.conf in yocto built image? | 08:34 |
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ThomasD13 | Hi, again a QA problem which I dont know how to solve it: "ERROR: QA Issue: -dev package contains non-symlink .so: external-arm-toolchain-dev path ". The package is called "external-arm-toolchain". | 08:41 |
ThomasD13 | The funny thing about is, that exactly the same yocto source configuration builds on another PC without this QA Error | 08:42 |
ThomasD13 | Even if I do -c do_cleanall, and rebuild the package, the QA error appears. | 08:43 |
ThomasD13 | I suspect, that a "-c do_cleanall" does not remove "everything" of external-arm-toolchain. Could this be possible? | 08:45 |
RP | ThomasD13: external toolchains are complex/tricky things. Its difficult to know what is going on without debugging that :/ | 08:57 |
ThomasD13 | Okay. I'm just curious, that this error appears. I'm using exact same yocto configuration and build commands. Just on a different host. However I noticed that the host (with the error) only provides 2 CPUs. The host without error has 8. Maybe thats the reason. | 09:01 |
ThomasD13 | I'll try to reduce the parallel yocto jobs and gcc threads for the 2 core machine, and rebuild everything from scratch. | 09:01 |
ThomasD13 | As last resort ;) | 09:02 |
RP | ThomasD13: it definitely could be some kind of race from a missing dependency | 09:03 |
rburton | ThomasD13: was that the exact error message? it's badly formatted. | 09:03 |
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ThomasD13 | rburton, https://pastebin.com/jbrKKLHT | 09:04 |
rburton | ThomasD13: what did you set EAT_VER_MAIN to? | 09:04 |
rburton | my top tip is don't use external-arm-toolchain :) | 09:06 |
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ThomasD13 | rburton, EAT_VER_MAIN: I don't know. I just deleted everything and startet rebuilding the image from scratch. It will take some hours. I dont want to waste your time, when this was just a kind of race condition :) | 09:07 |
ThomasD13 | But I will tell you, if the error persists | 09:07 |
paulbarker | ThomasD13: What's your DISTRO set to for your build? Any other layers you're including? I know of a few which have known QA issues | 09:08 |
ThomasD13 | And about external-arm-toolchain: I don't have enough time to understand what exactly happens, and how to avoid it :D I just relay here on ti | 09:08 |
ThomasD13 | paulbarker, https://pastebin.com/KwX1W7NW | 09:10 |
ThomasD13 | Thats my build configuration | 09:10 |
paulbarker | ThomasD13: QA issues are a fact of life with Arago. I use it extensively. I just see "HEAD" as the branch name for all your layers, are you building against dunfell? | 09:11 |
paulbarker | Did you use the `oe-layersetup` tool or checkout all the layers yourself | 09:12 |
ThomasD13 | paulbarker, I building against dunfell. I used oe-layersetup to checkout the latest psdk_07_00_01 configuration. I separately store the state of source-git-repositories and restored them. I think this is why "HEAD" appears on the layer configuration info | 09:13 |
paulbarker | ThomasD13: I don't think 07.00.01 is properly released yet. I've been following the tags in meta-arago, meta-ti and ti-linux-kernel but I don't see a final tag yet | 09:14 |
ThomasD13 | paulbarker, thats interesting: I work with the TDA4VMX, and use PSDKLA release from June 2020. This has version 07_00_01. Inside of that SDK, there is a psdkla-07_00_01.txt file, which holds the arago configuration (which should be used for yocto builds) | 09:16 |
paulbarker | ThomasD13: Oh ok. We may be mixing up version numbers | 09:16 |
ThomasD13 | But anyway, I'm very glad to hear, that I am not the only one which uses arago :) | 09:16 |
paulbarker | ThomasD13: You're using ProcessorSDK, I think what I'm using is referred to as CoreSDK (or it used to be) | 09:17 |
ThomasD13 | ah okay. I dont know CoreSDK. For which SoC do you use arago? | 09:17 |
paulbarker | I use the kas tool but you can probably figure out the config format easily enough. See https://github.com/SanCloudLtd/meta-sancloud/blob/dunfell/kas/bbe-arago.yml and other files under the kas directory in that repo | 09:18 |
paulbarker | The BeagleBone Enhanced (BBE) is based on the old AM335x SoC | 09:19 |
paulbarker | I also worked with Keystone 2 SoCs a lot back in 2015-2017 | 09:19 |
ThomasD13 | Ahh cool! I used BBB (BeagleBone Black) to evaluate the PRU's for very first time. After that I gone up from AM4*/AM5*/AM65* and now on Jacinto Platform | 09:21 |
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qschulz | is there a way to know which **direct** DEPENDS pulls some files in the sysroot? E.g., A depends on B which depends on C. I know the file come from C, but I want to know which recipe is B. | 09:41 |
qschulz | recipe A is qtbase and recipe C is openssl so looking at recipe-depends.dot or task-depends.dot is very inefficient right now :/ | 09:45 |
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qschulz | (it's not the packageconfig in qtbase BTW) | 09:45 |
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qschulz | RP: may all the lights turn green | 10:31 |
RP | qschulz: lets hope so :) | 10:34 |
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RP | looks like most of the data centre machines and access gateway :/ | 11:04 |
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* qschulz calling the fire dpt, we shouldn't have fired a build in the first place | 11:06 | |
RP | qschulz: firing builds is so much more satisfying that starting them ;-) | 11:07 |
LetoThe2nd | cue Bloodhound Gang? | 11:08 |
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LetoThe2nd | is there some ad-hoc means to build tools-profile when linux-dummy provides the kernel? it borks out because being unable to build kernel-source | 11:38 |
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frosteyes | Hi folks. When having a git archive with submodules in the download folder. Is their a way for the modules link, to be relative instead of full path on the filesystem | 12:04 |
frosteyes | E.g. in the downloads/git2/<name.git>/modules/ folder is a link to the module | 12:05 |
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frosteyes | This has a symbolic link to the module, but instead of having it like ../../<module_name.git> it is created like /file/system/root/path/very/long/path/downloads/git2/<modulename.git> | 12:08 |
frosteyes | When using it in a docker setup, it can be an issue. | 12:09 |
frosteyes | Where the downloads and sstate is mounted in as a volume | 12:09 |
frosteyes | Something like "docker container run -t -i --rm -v /path/to/storage/yocto/:/opt/yocto/ ..." | 12:10 |
RP | hmm, all came back... | 12:11 |
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kayterina | hello, I have linux manjaro at work and I want to start yocto again. So I am thinking of creating a debian filesystem for chroot with qemu static and work yocto in there, does it sound like a bad idea? | 12:13 |
qschulz | kayterina: you could use one of the container images there exists though (pyrex or crops IIRC) | 12:14 |
rburton | definitely just use crops or pyrex | 12:14 |
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LetoThe2nd | zeddii: already awake? could need a pointer. | 12:20 |
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yann | I'm trying to reuse sstate for building an eSDK, and just discovered that binutils-crosssdk:do_configure depends on DISTRO_VERSION - that sounds like a bad idea, right ? | 13:36 |
yann | we surely don't want to rebuild a new binutils (and I guess all the nativesdk) for every dot-release of a distro, right ? | 13:37 |
rburton | where is that referenced? | 13:39 |
yann | I guess that would be meta/classes/toolchain-scripts-base.bbclass: echo 'Distro Version: ${DISTRO_VERSION}' >> $versionfile | 13:39 |
yann | not sure though | 13:41 |
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yann | target_exec_prefix and such use ${SDKPATHNATIVE} -> ${SDKPATH} -> ${SDK_VERSION} -> ${DISTRO_VERSION}, that sounds better like a do_configure influence | 13:49 |
LetoThe2nd | RP: hrhrhr | 13:50 |
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yann | shouldn't this be neutralized, since the SDK are relocatable anyway ? Shouldn't we drop SDK_VERSION from SDKPATH, and only have SDK_VERSION added at SDK relocation time ? | 14:00 |
rburton | sounds sensible | 14:01 |
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Ninic0c0 | Hello all, is it dirty to put PREFERRED_VERSION inside an image recipe ? | 14:01 |
rburton | Ninic0c0: it won't work | 14:02 |
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Ninic0c0 | ok that's confirm test. Thx | 14:02 |
LetoThe2nd | Ninic0c0: https://www.instagram.com/p/CBgEgS_jXTD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link | 14:03 |
qschulz | Ninic0c0 sing with me recipe data is local, conf data is global | 14:03 |
qschulz | LetoThe2nd: damn, too slow | 14:03 |
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Ninic0c0 | Nice guys thx for support :) | 14:03 |
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RobertBerger | Hi | 14:04 |
RobertBerger | Does anybody know we we need a host gcc installed to install the extensible SDK? I thought we avoid host gcc dependencies with uninative. | 14:04 |
RobertBerger | why we need | 14:04 |
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RP | RobertBerger: uninative doesn't avoid gcc, buildtools does | 14:06 |
RP | RobertBerger: eSDK could avoid host gcc if buildtools is installed | 14:06 |
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RobertBerger | RP: you mean when I install the SDK. | 14:08 |
RobertBerger | RP: Wait so what you say is, that I need to install x86_64-buildtools-nativesdk-standalone-3.1+snapshot-20201020.sh manually? | 14:09 |
RobertBerger | RP: My point is that we use the uninative tarball to avoid host gcc dependencies while building. But when installing the SDK we need a host gcc. | 14:11 |
rburton | uninative abstracts the host *glibc* | 14:12 |
RobertBerger | @rburton, so it's not really about getting rid of the host gcc in the build process. | 14:13 |
RobertBerger | grep show, that both the extensible SDK and the "classic" SDK do something with buildtools. | 14:14 |
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RP | RobertBerger: correct, uninative allows the same binaries to run on systems with a different OS, its a glibc abstraction | 14:15 |
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RP | RobertBerger: for gcc, you need buildtools | 14:15 |
RobertBerger | @RP OK - understood | 14:15 |
RobertBerger | I do have buildtools | 14:16 |
RobertBerger | ls *.sh | 14:16 |
RobertBerger | poky-glibc-x86_64-core-image-minimal-core2-64-qemux86-64-toolchain-3.1+snapshot.sh x86_64-buildtools-nativesdk-standalone-3.1+snapshot-20201020.sh | 14:16 |
RobertBerger | poky-glibc-x86_64-core-image-minimal-core2-64-qemux86-64-toolchain-ext-3.1+snapshot.sh | 14:16 |
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RobertBerger | This is what the extensible SDK needs: for util in diffstat bzip2 gzip gawk cpio perl file which gcc g++ | 14:18 |
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RP | RobertBerger: eSDK should be no different to the main build | 14:19 |
RobertBerger | Well it could be that it has similar host requirements than oe/poky/bitbake in order to use the devtool. | 14:20 |
RobertBerger | Most likely it does not bring everything needed with it. | 14:21 |
RP | RobertBerger: Its not designed to bring everything | 14:22 |
RobertBerger | So all this slowly starts to make sense then to me - kind of. | 14:23 |
RobertBerger | I just this is nasty thing and it starts to install: sudo touch /usr/bin/gcc | 14:24 |
RobertBerger | but not for long ;) | 14:24 |
RP | RobertBerger: note that "buildtools" contains some tools, you need "buildtools-extended" to contain gcc | 14:25 |
RobertBerger | hmm OK | 14:26 |
RobertBerger | So if I really wanted to I could hack things to use buildtools-extended instead of buildtools for the extensible SDK in order to avoid more host dependencies. | 14:30 |
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RobertBerger | shouldn't it be enough to throw the native tools into nativesdk-packagegroup-sdk-host.bbappend to end up in the SDK? But then it might be a chicken and egg problem. | 14:33 |
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RobertBerger | I'll built the buildtools-extended tarball and see what happens if I try to install this ;) | 14:40 |
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RP | RobertBerger: I think extended should do what you're looking fod | 14:43 |
RP | for | 14:43 |
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LetoThe2nd | we'll be live in 10 minutes on https://www.twitch.tv/theyoctojester - time to get confy and find a drink! | 14:50 |
mckoan | LetoThe2nd: hurray! | 14:50 |
LetoThe2nd | fray: did you find a minute to have a peek at the spdx patches for crosslink, so we can get some feedback out? | 14:51 |
fray | I've been swamped with work and some other (non-work) stuff.. I hope I'll be freed up soon. | 14:52 |
fray | I've got that patch and one from Mentor that need to get reviewed/merged. | 14:52 |
LetoThe2nd | fray: i think it would also be ok if you can just drop a line saying "i'm the maintainer, i received it, will take some time". this came through the outreachy stuff and it would be awesome if we could keep the motivation up! | 14:54 |
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tlwoerner | YPTM: trevor is on | 15:00 |
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kergoth | JPEW: Trying to get gdb-cross-canadian on mingw to use a prebuilt python tarball, and the gdb executable immediately exits with no output. Any insight? I'm assuming it's failing to import it at runtime, but without any output or response to --help or anything, it's tough to diagnose. Do you happen to know if there's something like strace for windows executables or somethign? | 15:04 |
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JPEW | kergoth: Are you running on actual Windows or on Wine? | 15:05 |
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kergoth | actual windows, but i could use wine if that provides anything useful | 15:05 |
fray | kergoth, I had reports of that on a baremetal toolchain, but also reports of python (nativeSDK) working on mingw [the bundled one] with Linux | 15:06 |
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JPEW | kergoth: No. A few things don't work on wine for some reason, so I always check | 15:06 |
kergoth | ah | 15:06 |
JPEW | kergoth: It's been a while since I did any debugging... I know there are tools, but I can't recall what theya re | 15:08 |
kergoth | the python binary itself works fine, and can import its standard library modules, just gdb fails to run | 15:08 |
rburton | khem: can't replicate the optee problem with musl. was that musl+gcc or +clang? | 15:08 |
kergoth | np, just thought i'd check | 15:08 |
rburton | rewitt: will you push the arm64 crops images to the official repo? | 15:09 |
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rcw | Are there tools or scripts that people have used to read the bitbake event log? | 15:15 |
rcw | Ideally, something that already filters the event types and depickles the event data. | 15:15 |
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RobertBerger | @RP I didn't get it work | 15:27 |
RobertBerger | @RP what i tried was to install x86_64-buildtools-extended-nativesdk-standalone-3.1+snapshot-20201020.sh and source it | 15:30 |
RobertBerger | and I tried to install the extensible SDK afterwards | 15:31 |
RobertBerger | could not find gcc | 15:31 |
RobertBerger | Sorry - my bad seems to install | 15:33 |
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RobertBerger | @RP: Wow this is nice, need to play a bit more, but this means less host dependencies for the developer! | 15:36 |
tlwoerner | smurray: https://jaycarlson.net/embedded-linux/ | 15:40 |
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mckoan | tlwoerner: nice | 15:49 |
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khem | rburton: this is gcc+musl | 15:55 |
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tlwoerner | zeddii: w00t! more BSP layers converting! | 15:57 |
tlwoerner | zeddii: your hard work is paying off :-D | 15:58 |
zeddii | git merge monkey! | 15:58 |
rburton | zeddii: can you setup a cron to pull linus's commits/tags and push them to linux-yocto so it's always fresh? | 15:58 |
zeddii | I have one that runs on my -dev machine. I check it weekly, but I could make master and */base automatic. | 15:59 |
tlwoerner | rburton: i think there's more involved than just updating hashes, there are other things (perf) that need to come along with every update too | 16:00 |
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zeddii | I have a radioactive decay on old releases. weekly for current, bi-weekly for previous release, monthly for older and 6 monthly for really old stuff. (or when asked). | 16:01 |
rburton | tlwoerner: not recipe updates, just the git repo itself | 16:02 |
rburton | tlwoerner: eg at least once i've had to ask zeddii nicely to push linux-yocto because a platform team wants to use a release that is a day old :) | 16:03 |
zeddii | hah. and I think that particular kernel is now EOL, or at least it didn't have updates when I did my last cycle last week. | 16:04 |
* zeddii will check again today. | 16:04 | |
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rburton | wow, a pohly | 16:07 |
paulbarker | zeddii: Unfortunately I have some pain-in-the-ass client and vendor requirements. If we can find a way to meet them with what's in oe-core I'd be very happy to help out as much as needed to make it happen | 16:08 |
rewitt | rburton: I'll need to turn it on in travis, but my plan is to do it | 16:10 |
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rburton | rewitt: thanks | 16:13 |
rburton | rewitt: ping when its done and i'll update my custom image | 16:13 |
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khem | rburton: another machine with qemuarm64/gcc/musl http://errors.yoctoproject.org/Errors/Build/111285/ | 16:34 |
rburton | khem: turns out the build i tested was n1sdp which doesn't build optee :) | 16:35 |
rburton | new build running now | 16:35 |
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khem | rburton: ok, if you want to avoid my eyes test on qemuarm64/musl :) | 16:39 |
paulbarker | Is there any way to build linux-yocto with an in-tree defconfig (I'm thinking ARM multi_v7_defconfig) and ensure no config fragments are used? | 16:44 |
JPEW | KBUILD_DEFCONFIG = "multi_v7_defconfig" | 16:45 |
JPEW | I also had to set: KCONFIG_MODE = "alldefconfig" | 16:45 |
paulbarker | KCONFIG_MODE needs adding to the kernel-dev manual for sure | 16:46 |
paulbarker | We need to replicate the behaviour of "make multi_v7_defconfig" | 16:47 |
paulbarker | The closest I've got is `KERNEL_CONFIG_COMMAND = "oe_runmake -C ${S} CC="${KERNEL_CC}" LD="${KERNEL_LD}" O=${B} multi_v7_defconfig"` but that's unweidly | 16:47 |
JPEW | paulbarker: Don't those 2 lines do that? | 16:50 |
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rburton | what JPEW said is what we have in meta-arm for one or two kernels | 16:50 |
paulbarker | JPEW: I'd have to check it out and diff the resulting .config files | 16:50 |
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JPEW | paulbarker, zeddii: I sent a patch to the docs ML with an FAQ for how to use a vanilla kernel. | 17:04 |
JPEW | Comments welcome.... also making sure I'm not telling lies would be great! | 17:04 |
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paulbarker | JPEW: Thanks. I'm hacking around now to see how close I can get to what I need with a linux-yocto bbappend | 17:04 |
paulbarker | JPEW: `v5.8/standard/base` is a merge commit, I guess we'd want `v5.8/base` for purely vanilla upstream | 17:07 |
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paulbarker | And by the looks of it we'd still need a place to carry bbappend files or recipes which set KBRANCH, SRCREV, etc. That doesn't belong in a BSP layer | 17:09 |
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RP | Yay, green build for rc1 :) | 17:17 |
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kergoth | congrats | 17:28 |
moto-timo | \o/ | 17:29 |
moto-timo | celebrate! | 17:29 |
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JPEW | paulbarker: You may want to reference linux-yocto-custom in meta-skeleton | 18:07 |
JPEW | paulbarker: Ya, you're correct. v5.8/standard/base isn't *quite* upstream... but it's really close and it's by far the easiest to use | 18:10 |
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* zeddii reads | 18:46 | |
zeddii | yah. /base is clean. /standard/base has only enough to work around boot / OE build issues (like perf). Nasty stuff is on BSP branches. | 18:46 |
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rburton | khem: 2020-10-20 15:51:33 - INFO - NOTE: recipe optee-os-3.11.0-r0: task do_compile: Succeeded | 19:03 |
rburton | khem: qemuarm64-secureboot with musl | 19:03 |
rburton | can you replicate? what else might be causing that? | 19:03 |
rburton | (-secureboot is basically qemuarm64 with tweaks) | 19:04 |
rburton | oh optee-test, not optee-os | 19:04 |
* rburton expands test matrix | 19:04 | |
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alejandrohs | rewitt: While youre at it Randy, I noticed the default crops/poky-container is still 18.04, so 20.04 hasnt been pushed | 19:42 |
alejandrohs | rewitt: nvm I just basically hit refresh and its there now | 19:42 |
alejandrohs | :D | 19:42 |
JPEW | zeddii, paulbarker: Hmm, that's a tricky one... it seems like telling users to use /base is unwise since it isn't tested and has at lease some known issues (at least I assume zeddii wouldn't be patching it otherwise) | 19:45 |
JPEW | OOTH, it's hard to explain that | 19:45 |
paulbarker | JPEW: /base is the mainline or stable release from kernel.org though so any known issues must be very yocto specific if they're not causing more general issues for other users | 19:47 |
paulbarker | I know we carry a patch for menuconfig | 19:47 |
paulbarker | Not sure what else | 19:47 |
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paulbarker | FYI linux-yocto is still stuck in do_fetch here after 2h so I've made no progress on this, moved on to other things. I'll look at it tomorrow | 19:49 |
khem | rburton: perhaps ptest ? | 19:54 |
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rburton | khem: good news! the optee-test thing happens with glibc too :) | 20:05 |
rburton | i'm guessing its trying to statically link but we don't build libstdc++ with static libs? | 20:05 |
rburton | no, there's a libstdc++.a | 20:07 |
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khem | yes I am seeing it on glibc too see http://errors.yoctoproject.org/Errors/Details/510155/ | 20:10 |
khem | we do have static libs but I am seeing it call bare linker and use full names on linker cmdline like libstdc++.a | 20:12 |
khem | instead of -lstdc++ etc. | 20:12 |
khem | -static -lstdc++ should have same effect infact | 20:13 |
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khem | rburton: it works with clang :) | 20:15 |
khem | rburton: look at recipe-sysroot/usr/include/optee/export-user_ta/mk/gcc.mk | 20:18 |
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khem | its not respectng CC and friends from bitbake env thats the problem | 20:19 |
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rburton | really getting frustrated with projects just reinventing build systems from the ground up | 20:29 |
rburton | what the deuce | 20:30 |
rburton | libstdc++$(sm):= $(shell $(CXX$(sm)) $(CXXFLAGS$(arch-bits-$(sm))) $(comp-cxxflags$(sm)) -print-file-name=libstdc++.a 2> /dev/null) | 20:30 |
rburton | what the ** is wrong with -lstdc++ | 20:30 |
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rburton | khem: our intern has been kicking this stuff a fair bit, i'll get him to have a look | 20:34 |
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rburton | ah looks like an easy fix | 20:37 |
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rewitt | alejandrohs: 20.04 exists, but it isn't the default. i.e. If you pull crops/poky-container it would still pull crops/poky-container:ubuntu-18.04. We can change the default though. | 21:37 |
rewitt | s/poky-container/poky | 21:37 |
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khem | rburton: http://sprunge.us/pdnoqU takes you a step further, but then it fails with LSE stuff, libgcc/config/aarch64/lse-init.c:44: undefined reference to `__getauxval' | 22:30 |
khem | __getauxval is expected to come from libc which in optee-os case is not standard libc perhaps I tried to build it using -mno-outline-atomics but it did not work either | 22:31 |
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khem | rburton: this is the offending commit in optee-test https://github.com/OP-TEE/optee_test/commit/1a205ae33440f603e0579155505ce48215169e58 | 22:38 |
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