| smurray | kiwi_29: I'm not sure I understand your usecase, but it's probably workable with an actual kernel recipe, you'll just need to hack your image recipe to remove the unwanted kernel bits | 00:01 |
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| kiwi_29 | based on https://elinux.org/images/6/62/Building-Container-Images-with-OpenEmbedded-and-the-Yocto-Project-Scott-Murray-Konsulko-Group-1.pdf I need to use linux-dummy for perferred virtual/kernel provider | 00:05 |
| kiwi_29 | I am wondering if that is causing the error for me ? | 00:05 |
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| smurray | kiwi_29: the issue is what you're seeing, you can't build modules against linux-dummy, as it doesn't build a kernel, so required bits are missing | 02:33 |
| kiwi_29 | thats true smurray . I m currently building and reproducing the issue . Modules cannot be build against linux-dummy but the error is about non-availability of compiler which looks weird | 02:34 |
| smurray | kiwi_29: I believe there is an include makefile deployed by the kernel build that you'll be missing, it wouldn't surprise me if that's causing the failure | 02:36 |
| smurray | kiwi_29: and I can't see how you'll get the modules built w/o the kernel tree's headers | 02:37 |
| kiwi_29 | I thought few days ago I was able to compile it. But I may be mistaken . Is there any way to add COMPATIBLE_MACHINE or such in recipe to still use actual x86_64 architecture based kernel source to compile modules but still use linux-dummy as preferred provider for virtual/kernel? | 02:38 |
| smurray | I've no idea, what your attempting doesn't make a lot of sense to me, to be honest | 02:39 |
| smurray | any kernel modules inside the container or not, need to be built against the host kernel | 02:39 |
| kiwi_29 | :) . I know . Its not fully clear. I am waiting for my build to finish ...I will try and report back | 02:39 |
| smurray | I think you'll need to do what I suggested earlier if you want to keep on this path, i.e. not use linux-dummy, and instead tweak the image recipe to leave out any unwanted kernel pieces | 02:41 |
| smurray | I can imagine some other hacks that involve building the modules as part of the host build in a multiconfig setup, but it'd take some work | 02:42 |
| kiwi_29 | "multiconfig setup" . I m quite interested in it. I have about 8 different distros that is being generated our of our source. Its a nightmare and I m looking for ways to keep it sane. Any more docs/ideas/information about it please let me know | 02:45 |
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| roussinm | RP: poky/bitbake/lib/bb/cache.py:546, I don't think this path is ever taken otherwise it would crash? | 03:24 |
| smurray | kiwi_29: other than what's in the YP docs and my container presentations, I think there have been a couple of presentations on using it for builds with of both host & VM images. There are couple of presentations at the YP Summit tomorrow that I believe will cover it | 03:25 |
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| roussinm | RP: configData isn't define in the scope. Another thing. `def parse` only takes filename and appends. | 03:27 |
| smurray | kiwi_29: there are a few other people that will likely be on channel tomorrow during the day in the US that I think have mentioned they use multiconfig to build many images in one build out a single tree | 03:28 |
| roussinm | RP: My real question is: Is this dead code? This `else` branch is probably never taken for some reason. | 03:31 |
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| roussinm | Is there a readme/wiki to setup a "good" debugging experience with bitbake? I'm trying with VSCode, but it doesn't look like it can follow subprocesses. | 03:33 |
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| kiwi_29 | smurray how to join the yocto summit tomorrow? | 03:39 |
| smurray | kiwi_29: info is here, I think you need to go through the ELC event page to register: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Yocto_Project_Summit_2020 | 03:41 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 07:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | i'll look at the upcoming summit at https://www.twitch.tv/theyoctojester at 9:00 over a mug of coffee, join us! | 07:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | e.g., in 4 minutes :) | 07:56 |
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| guest1243 | Hi, I'm trying to extend the core-image-minimal, so that I can run "bitbake core-image-minimal" with my own modifications. Is it possible to add image features from another layer? Does anyone know a tutorial? | 08:20 |
| rburton | guest1243: write your own image, you can start by copy-pasting core-image-minimal | 08:21 |
| LetoThe2nd | guest1243: create your own image | 08:21 |
| LetoThe2nd | guest1243: tutorial is here: https://youtu.be/nqHylLP2NmA | 08:21 |
| guest1243 | So it is not recommended/possible to use .bbappend files to extend an existing image? | 08:21 |
| LetoThe2nd | strongly discouraged. | 08:21 |
| LetoThe2nd | possible, yes. | 08:21 |
| rburton | core-image-* are reference images | 08:22 |
| rburton | just copy them if they're good starting points | 08:22 |
| guest1243 | Okay, understood | 08:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | its all in the video. :) | 08:23 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 08:49 |
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| fbre | Hi! Do you know that effect with the console during booting of Linux when suddenly all output is just cryptic character salad? As if the encoding is wrong. As soon as I restart my serial client program everything is OK again | 08:53 |
| fbre | Sometimes it fixes by itself, which looks like this: | 08:55 |
| fbre | [ 0.122948] 003: CPU3: Booted secondary processor 0x0000000003 [0x410fd034] 2À™Ü‚rŠš¢¢ÊÊê‚‚‚ÒšÕ¥¢õÑ…±z™¢‚ɽ•ÍͽÉÍÓS'SSS ‚‚ÒUÉ«VW—®Ö.'HYYºY,W–'¤&¦K¬Z]Q¦˜ Support[ 0.145265] 000: CPU features: detected: CRC32 instructions | 08:57 |
| mckoan | fbre: very likely bad hardware or cpu registers settings | 08:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | fbre: i have seen serial-usb converters being massively confused too, where a connection reset would fix it at best, and only unplugging both sides at worst. | 08:58 |
| fbre | it all happens with a git version of dunfell on an imx8 eval board | 08:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | fbre: time for a bisect then... if you have a known good working state from earlier. | 08:59 |
| fbre | hmm... ok thanx. I just thought it may be a well known issue somehow | 09:01 |
| fbre | probably a problem in the serial-usb stuff. I did not see that at all with previous yocto branches (sumo, zeus, warrior) | 09:04 |
| RP | roussinm: It probably isn't used due to the access patterns bitbake as to cached data? | 09:11 |
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| zandrey_ | fbre: let me guess - you use FTDI-based usb-serial converter? I've seen those issue a lot with FTDI chips on a lot of different SOCs (not only imx8) and various yocto branches | 09:24 |
| zandrey_ | try to replace the converter to another one, that is what usually helped me | 09:24 |
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| fbre | zandrey_: Not knowingly. Now I searched the kernel config for FTDI and found USB_FTDI_ELAN =n and USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO =n | 09:45 |
| fbre | zandrey_: Not sure what my current serial-usb converter is | 09:45 |
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| fbre | Where can I find the choice of serial to USB converter in bitbake virtual/kernel -c menuconfig? | 09:53 |
| zandrey_ | fbre: i was talking from the other side: the converter you use on the desktop to connect to the HW - that one is usually gets messed up. | 09:58 |
| fbre | zandrey_: I use TeraTerm on Windows 10 | 09:58 |
| fbre | zandrey_: Which actually never has such problems | 09:59 |
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| zandrey_ | fbre: Bingo! :D TeraTerm is the one I had most of those corrupted strings with! | 10:01 |
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| fbre | zandrey_: OK, so you mean a different serial client should help. Hmm, strange... but I'll give it a try (y) | 10:02 |
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| RP | kanavin_home: Looks like master-next failed in glib, have you looked at that? | 11:15 |
| kanavin_home | RP: I can take a look. | 11:17 |
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| kanavin_home | RP: which build? | 11:18 |
| kanavin_home | a-full 1519? | 11:18 |
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| RP | kanavin_home: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/83/builds/1519 | 11:18 |
| RP | kanavin_home: yes | 11:18 |
| RP | kanavin_home: I suspect its the patch added in master interacting badly? | 11:18 |
| RP | kanavin_home: I spotted additional issues with gstreamer in no-x11 and reported those on the list | 11:19 |
| eduardas | hello, I've got an old broken version of u-boot that gets confused about libfdt headers from the dtc-dev package. Can I blacklist a package from getting included in the recipe-sysroot-native direcory? | 11:19 |
| eduardas | beacuse I do not need /recipe-sysroot-native/usr/include/fdt.h | 11:20 |
| eduardas | to build u-boot | 11:20 |
| kanavin_home | RP: yes, I think you need to revert Ross's commit http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=5689a70b23df001d5502bf756f115a84b29b0159 | 11:20 |
| RP | kanavin_home: ok, I'll try that | 11:21 |
| RP | kanavin_home: updated and build fired, thanks for confirming | 11:23 |
| kanavin_home | RP: I am also doing extra confirmation that the patch is indeed already included in the new version | 11:24 |
| kanavin_home | RP: it is | 11:31 |
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| RP | kanavin_home: thanks. I've squashed that into the upgrade | 11:35 |
| kanavin_home | RP: thanks, I will send out additional timezone fixes (that also need a dunfell backport) and a 2.66.2 update that includes them - apparently 2.66.1 doesn't quite fix all of the issues https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/-/releases#2.66.2 | 11:36 |
| RP | kanavin_home: sounds good. I know Steve is looking at how to fix glib in dunfell so we can take th tz updates | 11:41 |
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| kanavin_home | RP: nevermind, the 2.66.2 fixes apply only to 2.66.1, and not to 2.64.x | 11:48 |
| kanavin_home | however, 2.66.2 update still needed, I will send that | 11:49 |
| carlsb3rg | is there any documentation about the artifacts in the deploy directory? I get a core-image-minimal-initramfs-geodelx.cpio.gz and bin file there and everything and not really sure why... | 12:05 |
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| bluelightning | carlsb3rg: I think that would come from cpio.gz being in INITRAMFS_FSTYPES | 12:15 |
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| bluelightning | actually that is the default value | 12:16 |
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| * fbre likes initramfs | 12:22 | |
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| carlsb3rg | yeah...I figured that out eventually with bitbake -e | 12:28 |
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| ilkappe | Hello guys !! I want to build a kernel module out of the tree. to do that I've generated the SDK (adding TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK_append = " kernel-devsrc" to my conf), I've installed it and I've sourced the variables with | 13:07 |
| ilkappe | source <path-to-sdk>/environment-setup-aarch64-xilinx-linux | 13:07 |
| ilkappe | then I've run | 13:08 |
| ilkappe | $ cd <path-to-sdk>/sysroots/aarch64-xilinx-linux/usr/src/kernel | 13:08 |
| ilkappe | $ make scripts | 13:08 |
| ilkappe | after that the compilation process exits with: | 13:08 |
| ilkappe | HOSTCC scripts/extract-cert | 13:09 |
| ilkappe | but if I run | 13:09 |
| ilkappe | $ cd <path-to-sdk>/sysroots/aarch64-xilinx-linux/ | 13:09 |
| ilkappe | $ find . -name bio.h | 13:09 |
| ilkappe | ./lib/modules/4.19.0-xilinx-v2019.1/build/include/linux/bio.h | 13:09 |
| ilkappe | I think that I am missing some flags somewhere | 13:10 |
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| RP | hmm, buildhistory failures with master-next :( | 13:32 |
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| roussinm | BitBake devs, how do you interactively debug the bitbake daemon subprocess? Do you have any wiki/readme that explain a certain setup that works? I could probably try gdb... | 14:10 |
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| linums | hi guys | 14:12 |
| linums | I have a really dumb issue | 14:12 |
| linums | after changing the kernel configuration, my image still loads, and I can see that there is no kernel panic or something | 14:13 |
| linums | but bootup procedure does not ends up with a command prompt | 14:13 |
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| LetoThe2nd | linums: well what was the kernel configuration change? :D | 14:15 |
| linums | well, I've changed pretty much everything :D | 14:15 |
| linums | I just tried the current 5.8 kernel config from ubuntu | 14:16 |
| linums | but actually this machine works with that kernel from ubuntu | 14:16 |
| linums | was it a bad idea? :D | 14:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | i have no clue what you are talking about. because the condensed question sounds like "hey. i've got a machine that works with the ubuntu kernel. and works with a kernel i have. now i turned the config upside down and it doesn't work anymore. why?" | 14:19 |
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| linums | well, I am trying to figure out why the video card is not working with my kernel, so I just had this idea, that if I use the same configuration as the ubuntu kernel was built, maybe I can find what I need for that video card | 14:23 |
| linums | in my mind I thought that it can not be considered as an upside down turn for the configuration | 14:26 |
| linums | maybe it's not true | 14:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | video often involves a lot more than just the kernel config, sadly. especially on x86. i really can't comment there, being an arm guy | 14:31 |
| linums | yeah, this I've faced in the previous weeks :( | 14:31 |
| linums | well, I've added the kernel module what this video card needs, but than I had to realize, that some kernel parameters should be added to use it | 14:33 |
| linums | so after just enabling the amdgpu related stuff I received a kernel panic | 14:34 |
| linums | so I just decided to try the whole ubuntu kernel config, to check if the kernel config is the issue, but actually I was not expecting this issue | 14:36 |
| linums | at least a kernel panic would give me a hint why it does not boot up fully :D | 14:37 |
| linums | I've only worked with arm devices too until now, and it was just better :D | 14:41 |
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| RP | roussinm: I'm afraid I'm oldschool, printk style debugging. You probably could make it start pdb on a port you could connect to? | 15:36 |
| roussinm | pdb? Never heard of it probably? | 15:37 |
| rburton | yeah pdb works | 15:37 |
| rburton | https://github.com/rossburton/meta-ross/blob/master/classes/pdb.bbclass | 15:37 |
| rburton | call pdb and it will start it on a socket | 15:38 |
| rburton | so you can connect and step | 15:38 |
| roussinm | Let's see if I can integrate that inside VSCode. Thanks! | 15:38 |
| * rburton didnt consider that vscode has pdb integration and gets a bit excited | 15:42 | |
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| GeGo | Hello all, i have a problem with mutiple version of openssl , and used the PREFERRED_VERSION | 15:44 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: go go go https://youtu.be/hsjfAO870bk | 15:44 |
| rburton | roussinm: vscode uses https://github.com/microsoft/debugpy should be trivial to hook that up in a bitbake class | 15:44 |
| rburton | LetoThe2nd: have you considered writing a bot to auto-reply with metal covers of words that people write? | 15:44 |
| GeGo | in the local.config : PREFERRED_VERSION_openssl_forcevariable = "1.1.1%" | 15:45 |
| GeGo | ERROR: Multiple versions of openssl are due to be built | 15:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: actually, nope. | 15:45 |
| roussinm | rburton: in a bitbake class, sorry I'm really a newbie, I just started to look at the bitbake repository to start contributing! So I guess there is some kind of learning curve. | 15:45 |
| GeGo | Only one version of a given PN should be built in any given build. You likely need to set PREFERRED_VERSION_openssl to select the correct version or don't depend on multiple versions. | 15:45 |
| GeGo | Sorry i have just signed in and didn't know there is a discussion | 15:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | heh no problem GeGo | 15:46 |
| rburton | roussinm: ok debugpy can literally hijack existing python binaries so just give it the bitbake pid and you're sorted, in theory | 15:47 |
| roussinm | rburton: I would have to start bitbake first though... will it follow the daemonized thread? | 15:48 |
| rburton | depends what you're debugging. bitbake spawns a lot of processes | 15:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | GeGo: maybe you have something that has a dependency on a specific version of openssl, and therefore your PREFERRED_VERSION doesn't work as expected? just guessing | 15:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: but seriously, what would you think of me if i would leave the tedious work of annoying you with carefully selected hilarious metal videos to something as boring as a bot? | 15:50 |
| rburton | you'd actually get more respect | 15:51 |
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| LetoThe2nd | rburton: i don't need yours, i already have https://youtu.be/SQnrbdChHrg | 15:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | veni, vidi, vici! | 15:52 |
| roussinm | rburton: I'm trying to explore the startup of bitbake, before it starts building stuff. | 15:53 |
| rburton | LetoThe2nd: nicely done | 15:54 |
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| JPEW | Hmm, how come when I bitbake and image (e.g. core-image-minimal) and everything is in sstate, it still re-runs do_rootfs? | 15:59 |
| JPEW | At least, on a new sandbox.... if I do `bitbake core-image-minimal; bitbake core-image-minimal` the second does nothing | 16:01 |
| alejandrohs | RP: as in -Os? | 16:01 |
| RP | alejandrohs: yes | 16:02 |
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| RP | JPEW: we don't store images in sstate | 16:02 |
| RP | JPEW: we do use the sstate code for images to allow their cleanup, there is no sstate object written | 16:03 |
| alejandrohs | RP: I'll run a test, and check the improvement | 16:03 |
| JPEW | RP: Ah, OK | 16:03 |
| RP | JPEW: we probably could, its just slow as the things are so large | 16:03 |
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| JPEW | Sure. I'm testing a CI setup with NFS sstate and was confused as to why it still was running that task when I retriggered the build | 16:04 |
| alejandrohs | zeddii: I forgot to mention, can you add qemuarm64/tiny? it blows up as soon as you try to build it | 16:05 |
| zeddii | yah. no problem. I'm just updating to 5.10, and can test it against that. | 16:05 |
| RP | alejandrohs: the arm people need to get a grip ;-) (hi jonmason, rburton :) | 16:07 |
| rburton | wait what? | 16:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | for the arm people (jonmason, rburton) here you go: https://youtu.be/9yH6-CIt7DE | 16:08 |
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| rburton | ok you're so fast now i think you are a bot | 16:08 |
| * LetoThe2nd strikes, ducks and runs... time to call it a day until open mic | 16:08 | |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: i just happen to *know* so much already that its no searching anymore, just finding the link. | 16:09 |
| alejandrohs | zeddii: thanks | 16:11 |
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| jonmason | open a bug, we'll get to it | 16:16 |
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| champagneg | any idea why qtbase and qtwayland would produce empty ${PN}-src packages? qtdeclarative-src works correctly | 16:31 |
| alejandrohs | RP: 15% size improvement on core-image-minimal | 16:35 |
| alejandrohs | x86 | 16:35 |
| alejandrohs | seems to work properly as well | 16:36 |
| alejandrohs | to me thats enough for me to send a patch | 16:36 |
| RP | alejandrohs: go for it! | 16:39 |
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| RP | alejandrohs: I'd like to see what some of the other things in khem's presentation do too | 16:40 |
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| alejandrohs | I'm literally checking loop unrolling rightnow | 16:40 |
| alejandrohs | *disabling | 16:40 |
| RP | :) | 16:40 |
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| alejandrohs | theres a patch for poky-tiny pending to update and reduce busybox size on the ML btw, no rush, just in case you hadn't noticed | 16:41 |
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| RP | alejandrohs: I saw it, I'm struggling a little with getting everything queued | 17:04 |
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| * zeddii is saving his patch bombs for another week. | 17:14 | |
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| RP | zeddii: the thing is yours are probably tested so less of an issue | 17:27 |
| RP | JPEW: we're still seeing that netbase reproducible issue on the autobuilder. I guess that my patch isn't enough to invalidate the bad equivalence entries? :/ | 17:33 |
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| alejandrohs | RP: a couple of kilobytes with specific compilation flags IMO not enough to enable by default | 17:41 |
| alejandrohs | RP: patch set | 17:41 |
| alejandrohs | sent* | 17:44 |
| RP | alejandrohs: queued in -next, thanks | 17:44 |
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| khem | alejandrohs: are you using LTO | 17:52 |
| khem | that should help a bit with size too | 17:53 |
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| khem | openvswitch shrunk by 30% with lto | 17:55 |
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| kergoth | ugh, wow, meta-imx is .. not good | 18:46 |
| kergoth | bbappending busybox in a bsp layer? really? | 18:46 |
| * kergoth bangs head on desk | 18:46 | |
| sgw | still?? | 18:46 |
| kergoth | and the stuff in their layer.conf is an abomination | 18:47 |
| RP | kergoth: I don't dare look :( | 18:51 |
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| kernelsandals | Hi I'm wondering if someone can point me in the right direction here.. I'm working on building chromium-ozone-wayland from meta-browser's master branch (claims dunfell compatibility). I'm targeting a boundary devices imx8 SBC, using their official bsp support for dunfell. The issue I've run into is specifically during do_compile - I get an error | 19:16 |
| kernelsandals | saying "ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed". When I look at the compile log I see an error regarding "ld.lld: error: unable to find library -latomic". I've tried adding "libatomic-ops libatomic-ops-native libatomics-ops-native" to the DEPENDS via a bbappend, and have added libatomic to the RDEPENDS_${PN} via bbappend but am still seeing this | 19:16 |
| kernelsandals | issue. Can anyone point me in the right direction here? | 19:16 |
| khem | kernelsandals: libatomic should come with gcc-runtime | 19:30 |
| kernelsandals | Agreed, when I tried to add libatomic to the DEPENDS though I got an error that gcc-runtime only RPROVIDES it | 19:31 |
| kernelsandals | The chromium-ozone-wayland recipe is built using clang as well | 19:31 |
| khem | check recipe-sysroot/ inside the chromium build do you see this .so file ? | 19:31 |
| khem | yes I am aware of it being using clang, but runtime is still gnu | 19:32 |
| alejandrohs | kernelsandals: I'd start building it for a similar architecture that you know it works qemuarm64 for example, if it does work on that one start checking what the bsp for imx8 is overriding, cant say fo sure but I think libatomic DEPENDS should be just libatomic since it comes from gcc-runtime | 19:33 |
| khem | e.g. I see recipe-sysroot] | 19:33 |
| khem | % find . -name "libatomic*" | 19:33 |
| khem | ./usr/lib/libatomic.so.1.2.0 | 19:33 |
| khem | ./usr/lib/libatomic.so.1 | 19:33 |
| khem | ./usr/lib/libatomic.so | 19:33 |
| khem | ./usr/lib/libatomic.a | 19:33 |
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| alejandrohs | kernelsandals: what khem said | 19:34 |
| kernelsandals | Hmm, so recipe-sysroot in build/tmp/work/aarch64-mx8mm-fslc-linux/chromium-ozone-wayland/85.0.4183.102-r0/recipe-sysroot/usr/lib64/ does have libatomic.so.1.2.0, libatomic.so.1, libatomic.so, libatomic.a | 19:35 |
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| khem | ok so is it failing in some native part of build then ? | 19:35 |
| kernelsandals | Yeah, its failing on specifically yocto_native/brotli | 19:36 |
| khem | right, it perhaps is them expecting this on your build host | 19:36 |
| kernelsandals | I have installed libatomic via yum on my build host - packages for libatomic, libatomic-static and libatomic_ops-devel | 19:37 |
| khem | eg. on archlinux gcc-libs provides it | 19:37 |
| khem | kernelsandals: can you pastebin your failing complete linker cmd somewhere ? | 19:39 |
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| kernelsandals | @khem This is the log I have from do_compile -- https://pastebin.com/B7xASDME | 19:42 |
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| kernelsandals | @khem This is the log I have from do_compile -- https://pastebin.com/B7xASDME | 19:43 |
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| khem | kernelsandals: yeah i see, so its using clang-native with lld, so one option would be to try add -fuse-ld=gold to HOST_LDFLAGS | 19:51 |
| khem | another option might be to add -L/usr/lib | 19:51 |
| khem | but clang++ should have been able to find it if its installed in /usr/lib | 19:52 |
| khem | can you try a simple testcase with clang++ from recipe-sysroot-native with latomic something like clang++ hello.cpp -latomic | 19:54 |
| khem | and see if that works ? | 19:54 |
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| kernelsandals | Tried adding -L/usr/lib and -fuse-ld=gold to HOST_LDFLAGS but got the same error. I'll have to see if I can put something together for that second testcase.. | 19:59 |
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| alejandrohs | kernelsandals: you could add verbose flags to the linker to get more info on whats happening | 20:01 |
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| dev1990 | \o/ 10th anniversary, thank you all | 22:43 |
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