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mihaimorning06:40
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LetoThe2ndyo dudX07:41
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mckoangood morning07:43
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LetoThe2ndthe final good morning coffee in virtual dublin is taking place at https://www.twitch.tv/theyoctojester in 5 minutes!07:55
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mk4953Hello again.08:54
mk4953My question is about sofware configuration08:55
mk4953I have an assignment where we have to show how to disable software08:57
LetoThe2ndand disabling software means?09:01
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LetoThe2ndmk4953: just not including it in the resulting image?09:03
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mk49532 sec09:07
mk4953This is question from my assignment09:08
mk4953"Describe how to add "standard" software, ie. sw, which is part of the Yocto Project"09:08
mk4953And the other09:09
mk4953"Describe how to exclude software"09:09
LetoThe2ndthe answer is always the same. "create a custom image that includes what you wnat"09:09
mk4953Hmm09:10
LetoThe2ndsee me doing it here: https://youtu.be/nqHylLP2NmA09:11
LetoThe2ndit is really exactly that.09:11
mk4953Ok. så i need to see that again (i have seen most of your videos. :))09:12
mk4953It makes sense :)09:12
mk4953Very useful..09:13
mk4953But my problem is that i cannot find issues very quickly i looking for always.09:14
mk4953Is this ok, if i ask question from video, if you have time later?09:14
LetoThe2ndjust ask here, there is always somebody around. and creating a custom image is no magic at all. if you prefer written words/slides, find some good stuff here: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1wfuA_SrPEH-kFLhTgkp2VPD6bsULAMJ84ODtnKSarbY/edit#slide=id.p409:16
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mihaiis anyone else seeing issues with read only permissions on files under workdir and "permission denied" when cleaning?10:17
mihaimight be related to using go.bbclass, not sure10:18
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RobertBerger@ j10:28
RobertBerger@mihai: yes ;)10:29
RobertBerger@mihai: if you use master this goes away10:29
RobertBerger@mihai: it's related to pseudo10:29
mihaioh ok, thanks, RobertBerger10:32
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LetoThe2ndhum, i would rather said, it is being reduced probably. it can be triggered by reuse of tmp, and wiping tmp before the build substantially seems to reduce the problem, but it is not completely solved. however as RobertBerger said, on current master the behaviour changes to abort if corruption is detected, and includes information in how to aid debugging.10:35
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dl9pfdarknighte: ping11:23
dl9pfbluelightning: ping11:25
dl9pfare you up ?11:25
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bluelightningdl9pf: hey - I am indeed11:26
dl9pfcool11:26
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eduardashello, I get No rule to make target 'arch/arm64/boot/dts/ipq6018-cp01-c1.dtb' while compiling latest kernel 5.10-rc1 and having set KERNEL_DEVICETREE = "ipq6018-cp01-c1.dtb" in my machine config12:02
eduardasthe path is wrong since it should be /arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/ipq6018-cp01-c1.dtb12:04
eduardasthe qcom part is missing in path12:04
eduardascan anyone explain why this happens?12:04
eduardasthis is on yocto 3.2 gatesgarth12:05
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RPeduardas: very hard to speculate without looking at what is going on :/12:11
zeddiiI'm still a few days away from shaking out day0 issues with 5.10 myself, ELCe sort of sucked up all my time.12:12
zeddiiI did check the the devicetree .bbclass doesn't care about the path, it just uses the base '<foo>.dtb', so that issue is within the kernel build (some new input requirement, etc).12:13
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eduardasRP: setting KERNEL_DEVICETREE = "qcom/ipq6018-cp01-c1.dtb" seems to solve it, but I have never seen this happen before12:23
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eduardascan I configure a 32-bit u-boot build, but a 64-bit kernel/userpsace build for same machine?12:46
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sgwRP, JPEW: I just send WIP RFC for the qmp work.  I am stuck with the monitor_dump not running inside the ssh cmd processing correctly.13:27
sgwmaybe some other eyes on it, it's close.13:27
RPsgw: at a quick glance that code looks horribly racy with the socket number :/13:30
RPsgw: hardcoded 4444 too? :/13:31
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sgwRP: the hardcoded 4444 was for the human interface for test only remember my WIP!13:34
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sgwThe generated socket number is supposed to be the way to do that according to my google searches.  I am more concerned about the monitor_dump() not working as I expect in the ssh _run() code13:35
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RPsgw: the trouble is that as soon as you close that socket number, another process can take it and race?13:54
RPsgw: fair enough on 444413:54
RPsgw: you didn't mention it in the commit messages ;-)13:54
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sgwRP: WIP and early moning excuses!13:58
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JPEWsgw: I think you have erronouse quotes in the command14:01
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JPEWThe single quotes in testimage_dump_monitor() should not be there14:02
JPEWI think?14:02
sgwJPEW: It's not even printing the debug message from the monitor_dump when I call it in _run.  The one time I did see output correctly, it's quoted correctly (I think also because of the \n)14:04
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eduardasis it just me or is do_fetch for binutils-cross-aarch64 extremely slow? this is always the case for me on an entirely clean build without downloads15:03
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eduardasthough it could be much faster using ftp and tarball download, I suspect it is not done in poky for CI reasons?15:09
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prabhakarladHi All,15:22
prabhakarladWhat is the proper solution to check if file exists in  a bb file ?15:22
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eduardasprabhakarlad: is this file in metadata or work directory?15:27
eduardasprabhakarlad: if it's ir WORKDIR, I'd probably append a shell script to a task15:28
prabhakarladeduardas: its in work dir downloaded as part of SRC_URI15:28
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eduardasprabhakarlad: if you're using poky, I think there is a check that will not allow you to build the recipe if a SRC_URI file is missing15:29
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eduardasERROR: musl-1.2.1+gitAUTOINC+a5aff1972c-r0 do_package_qa: QA Issue: musl package is not obeying usrmerge distro feature. /lib should be relocated to /usr. [usrmerge]15:30
prabhakarladeduardas: SRC_URI file is Linux repo, I am trying to build tools (pcitest) which is only present in 4.19+ kernels15:31
eduardasI musl even known to work with usrmerge?15:31
prabhakarladeduardas: builds below 4.19 are failing15:32
eduardasprabhakarlad: you should build the tools only for machines and images that have 4.19+15:32
eduardasprabhakarlad: don't you have different image recipes for systems that run different kernel versions?15:33
eduardasprabhakarlad: assuming you have different kernel versions to support different platforms15:34
eduardasprabhakarlad: because why not use a single kernel recipe if platforms are similar enough?15:34
prabhakarladeduardas: unfortunately no :(  we have same recipe to build different kernel version.15:35
eduardasprabhakarlad: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/3.1.3/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-MACHINE_EXTRA_RDEPENDS15:38
eduardasprabhakarlad: I'd have different machine configs for different kernel versions and do MACHINE_EXTRA_RDEPENDS for a separate pcitests package15:39
eduardasprabhakarlad: MACHINE_EXTRA_RDEPENDS goes into machine configuration files15:40
eduardasprabhakarlad: not really sure how to go about pcitests themselves. Do you have a separate recipe for them using the same SRC_URI as kernel recipe?15:41
eduardasprabhakarlad: because I assume these are binaries that work on the target and are supposed to be shipped with the rootfs?15:41
prabhakarladeduardas: I am using the staging dir to get to pcitest.c15:41
prabhakarladYes it should be shipped with rootfs.15:42
zeddiiso you are explictly launching the build for it in your do_compile ?15:43
prabhakarladYep that's wight.15:45
prabhakarladright15:45
zeddiiso just test for the file, and only build if its there. do_compile is just shell.15:46
prabhakarladAh good point -F test <path> ?15:48
zeddiiwhatever you prefer.  if [ -f <foood> ]; then <do your build stuff>; fi15:48
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eduardasprabhakarlad: just curiosity: what package does the binary belong to after it gets installed into rootfs and packaged?15:49
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prabhakarladzeddii: Thanks15:52
eduardasprabhakarlad: Arago project packages this binary separately: http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-arago-extras/recipes-kernel/pcitest/pcitest_5.4.bb;hb=master15:52
eduardasthough the approach mentioned earlier should also work15:53
prabhakarladeduardas: we have a sperate recipe which builds all the required tools kernel-test.bb15:53
eduardasprabhakarlad: I'd personally still do a separate pcitest recipe and use MACHINE_EXTRA_RDEPENDS or add the package per image recipe15:54
eduardasprabhakarlad: but there are different ways to do the same thing15:55
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eduardasprabhakarlad: the advantage for separate recipe is that COMPATIBLE_MACHINE can be used as an additional sanity check15:56
eduardasprabhakarlad: i.e. it can be made not to build for machines that use older kernels even if the BSP user mistakenly does "bitbake pcitests"15:57
prabhakarladeduardas: agreed that would give fine grain control. Thank you for the pointers :)15:58
eduardasprabhakarlad: well, hopefully I can be helpful to people at least occasionally... I am usually get to ask for advice rather than give it to other people :D15:59
prabhakarlad:)16:02
eduardasdoes anyone know if the usrmerge distro feature broken under musl?16:04
eduardasor is it just my weird distro configuration16:04
eduardasis anyone even building/testing with usrmerge enabled?16:04
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RPkanavin_home: thanks for the patches. I've started moving master forwards again17:40
kanavin_homeRP: cheers, I do think me running the builds takes quite a bit of friction out17:43
* kanavin_home is a mini-ross17:43
moto-timokanavin_home is a tornado of patch bomb goodness17:43
RPkanavin_home: it helps massively!17:45
RPkanavin_home: I miss ross doing this, it is a huge help!17:45
RPrburton: you're being deprecated ;-)17:46
moto-timorburton 2.017:46
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RPJPEW: How do you handle the two recipe problem with your prebuilt setup?18:16
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JPEWRP: j/s I'm pushing up my code :)18:22
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JPEWRP: https://github.com/JoshuaWatt/prebuilt-recipes-example18:34
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JPEWI think I sufficiently sanitized that :)18:34
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khemRP: we have quite a few prebuilts too, and a bit of organizing helps, but we are producer and more consumer of them, someone who is building SDKs might have more different usecases18:35
khemah same think what JPEW is doing :)18:35
JPEWIt works well enough.... if we had to do it more than once I probably would have made it better18:36
JPEWI think you could combine them into a single recipe with BBCLASSEXTEND or somethinmg18:36
khemyeah, I am always paranoid avoid sharing wrong ones :)18:37
JPEWMy favorite part of this is the do_publish() task in the source recipe.... it's not often you write a task that modifies a recipe :)18:38
RPJPEW: its interesting but very specific use case. I still think one recipe switching between two inc files would probably look better to most end users18:38
JPEWRP: Right. To be clear, I'm fine with one recipe & inc files; I just don't want the selection of the inc files to be tied to what layers are present18:39
RPJPEW: how do you want the selection?18:40
RPJPEW: the hard part is most people don't want to share the source recipe18:40
RPJPEW: would BBMASK work for you?18:40
RPor BBPATH modification more likely18:41
khemRP: right, thats why its in a different layer and has virtual/xxx18:41
JPEWAh, I guess if they want to hide the source recipe that's another story18:43
JPEWI wasn't thinking about that18:43
JPEWOur recipes are just side by side in the same layer because we don't care about that18:43
moto-timo++18:44
RPJPEW: right, hiding this is key for some which is why the layer selection piece18:44
moto-timo--18:44
RPI'm not saying that is a good thing, just a hard requirement I keep hearing18:44
moto-timoI know18:44
moto-timojust don't like it18:44
moto-timo:)18:44
RPI don't like prebuilts full stop ;-)18:44
moto-timoI fundamentally don't think it's the right business model18:44
moto-timolol18:45
JPEWOurs is entirely a legal thing; they want to know who has to go to a deposition because they could see the source if we get sued18:45
moto-timoahh, the lawyers18:45
moto-timohello18:45
armpitpostbuilts ?18:48
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opennandrahello, I'm trying to bump python on rocko (need to stay ar poky rocko but need 3.7.x python). I just took brute force method to copy recipe from some later release but seems it's not right way as I'm getting errors like: NOTE: Resolving any missing task queue dependencies21:33
opennandraNOTE: preferred version 3.7.6 of python3 not available (for item python3-subprocess)21:33
opennandraNOTE: versions of python3 available: 3.5.321:33
opennandraNOTE: preferred version 3.7.6 of python3 not available (for item python3-textutils)21:33
opennandraNOTE: versions of python3 available: 3.5.321:33
opennandraNOTE: preferred version 3.7.6 of python3 not available (for item python3-reprlib)21:33
opennandraNOTE: versions of python3 available: 3.5.321:33
opennandrait is even possible?21:33
RPkanavin_home: still around?21:37
kanavin_homeRP: yes, just got the email21:47
RPkanavin_home: I'm puzzled why this suddenly appeared :/21:48
kanavin_homeRP: I guess json-glib generates a file with build paths in it21:48
RPkanavin_home: looks like it, but why suddenly in master-next21:48
kanavin_homeRP: I'll run a local build and see what happens21:50
kanavin_homeRP: is it probable that json-glib previously wasn;t a part of reproducibility tests, and now something in -next pulls it in?21:51
RPkanavin_home: ah, yes, that could well be21:53
RPkanavin_home: I think rburton may have seen this before21:53
kanavin_homeRP:21:56
kanavin_homecommit 642fde647f9f69ccbf67babd5c86a0779b25166c21:56
kanavin_homeAuthor: Jose Quaresma <quaresma.jose@gmail.com>21:56
kanavin_homeDate:   Thu Oct 29 14:28:00 2020 +000021:56
kanavin_home    gst-examples: upgrade to version 1.18.021:56
kanavin_home     21:56
kanavin_home    DEPENDS:21:56
kanavin_home     - Upstream now depends on libsoup-2.4 and json-glib21:56
kanavin_homecould be this?21:56
RPkanavin_home: yes, that would explain it. So its probably never been reproducible :/21:57
kanavin_homemeta/recipes-sato/packagegroups/packagegroup-core-x11-sato.bb:GSTEXAMPLES ?= "gst-examples"21:57
RPkanavin_home: sorry, I was getting distracted by the upgrade21:57
kanavin_homeRP: I'm running a build, I vaguely remember I have seen - and fixed - something like that21:57
RPkanavin_home: right, it does look familiar21:58
RPkanavin_home: similar to http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=ead43a4168cc8682e7440c3c5ac0da54f0af6f85 ?22:05
kanavin_homeRP: YES22:07
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kanavin_homeRP: patch sent22:20
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kanavin_homeRP: grrr, discard22:21
kanavin_homewill fix the right one in a second22:21
kanavin_homeI'm really falling asleep :)22:21
RPkanavin_home: no problem, its getting late and its somehow really tiring watching/listening to all this22:21
RPkanavin_home: I'm much happier now I know what is wrong, I'll just hold this set until we get this fixed22:22
kanavin_homeRP: sent again22:26
kanavin_homeRP: and now, afk22:26
RPkanavin_home: thanks!22:26
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* zeddii sees the story RP was mentioning https://www.bbc.com/news/health-5475077522:55
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RPzeddii: not looking good. Although the North East is the one area in the country where they think growth rates may be slowing22:59
RPI'm still not sure what a "reasonable worst case scenario" is23:00
* paulg returns to Ottawa tomorrow - which is AFAIK still in "Stage2" as a "red zone". :-/23:01
zeddiithey are talking about letting stuff open again. fingers crossed.23:01
paulgthought it was a hard four weeks starting Oct 9th... so another week and a bit minimum.23:03
zeddiiwith the latest numbers, they were talking about ways to ease. Might just wait the week, but they have at least acknowledged their 'choices23:04
zeddiiwere shit23:04
zeddiiand based on no numbers.23:04
RPI don't think they really know...23:06
zeddiithey released some decent ones here on Wednesday. As much as they know. But our scale is far less then most places.23:07
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