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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 07:06 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:51 |
| mckoan | hi LetoThe2nd | 07:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | howdy mckoan | 07:52 |
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| qschulz | greetings | 09:16 |
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| mihai | mornings | 09:50 |
| qschulz | halstead: hello there. Was wondering if you ware aware of https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layer/openembedded-core not working? (with an additional trailing /, it works)? | 10:10 |
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| nopunchman | hi there folks! | 11:57 |
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| qschulz | nopunchman: hi | 11:59 |
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| halstead | qschulz, I believe that is intentional. Where did you find a link without the trailing / present? Lets get that updated. | 13:22 |
| qschulz | halstead: why is this intentional? | 13:22 |
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| qschulz | halstead: just aiming for consistency in yocto-docs and having the trailing slash isn't very neat :) | 13:23 |
| halstead | qschulz, I'm not sure why. What I mean is the behavior it isn't due to misconfiguration. | 13:24 |
| halstead | qschulz, I can catch it at the webserver and redirect if it makes the docs cleaner. | 13:25 |
| qschulz | halstead: ok :/ at least I tried :) | 13:25 |
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| qschulz | halstead: I mean, to be discussed with ndec/RP obviously but why not? | 13:26 |
| qschulz | halstead: so basically we have extlinks in Sphinx which are just a way to build links, e.g. 'oe_git': ('https://git.openembedded.org%s', None), with :oe_git:`/meh` will output https://git.openembedded.org/meh | 13:27 |
| halstead | qschulz, Nobody has asked and as far as I know there were no links that didn't conform. | 13:27 |
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| qschulz | we have a leading slash already which isn;'t the best but not the question | 13:28 |
| qschulz | https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/topic/patch_v2_2_6_documentation/79145982 but now we have this | 13:29 |
| qschulz | (soon) | 13:29 |
| qschulz | 'oe_layer': ('https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layer%s', None), | 13:29 |
| qschulz | which means if we want to point to meta-qt5 for example, we need to have both a leading space (for now) and a trailing space | 13:30 |
| qschulz | which is different from the others | 13:30 |
| qschulz | we could technically have 'oe_layer': ('https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layer%s/', None), instead actually... | 13:31 |
| qschulz | but the day we remove the leading space (which we probably aim for with ndec?), then we'd have 'oe_layer': ('https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layer/%s/', None), | 13:32 |
| ndec | which looks quite nice to me, no? | 13:32 |
| qschulz | and then the "empty" link for pointing to the layer tab in the layerindex and not pointing to a layer directly, would have two slashes | 13:32 |
| ndec | ah, right. | 13:33 |
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| qschulz | I mean, it's nitpicking right but if there;s an easy fix server-side, why not? | 13:33 |
| ndec | i agree.. there is no reason why the server would "require" a leading slash to work.. | 13:35 |
| ndec | it's uncommon to have such a limitation. | 13:35 |
| halstead | qschulz, I just set https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/settings/#std:setting-APPEND_SLASH True and the behavior is the same. Hrm. I can make nginx do it instead, | 13:36 |
| qschulz | it's True by default according to the docs so not surprised :/ | 13:41 |
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| halstead | qschulz, I'm added a rewrite that will cover all the layers. | 13:45 |
| halstead | qschulz, I don't know if it's worth opening a bug about the CommonMiddleware APPEND_SLASH not working. | 13:46 |
| halstead | qschulz, Glad to help with cleaner docs :) | 13:46 |
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| qschulz | halstead: thanks :) | 13:48 |
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| qschulz | halstead: wait :D | 13:50 |
| qschulz | never mind | 13:50 |
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| qschulz | halstead: not sure how picky we want to be but https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/layer/xxx does not work but https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/layer/xxx/ does. And probably we want the same mechanisms for machines, distros, and classes? basically, probably append a trailing slash to all URLs starting with https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex? | 14:03 |
| qschulz | (and layers) | 14:04 |
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| qschulz | ndec: probably want to comment when you have some time on my answer to paul (specifically the TL;DR at least). no hurry though but don't want to make him do changes you disagree with | 14:20 |
| qschulz | ndec: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/message/791 (forgot to give context :) ) | 14:26 |
| ndec | looking now.. | 14:26 |
| ndec | qschulz: argh.. i have the feeling we are making things more difficult than they should ;) | 14:31 |
| qschulz | yes, that was my feeling too.. BUT CONSISTENCY, so my brain picked the more difficult thing :) | 14:32 |
| ndec | even using branch/master in the extlinks definition might not be good.. we might want (sometimes) to use branch/VERSION instead! | 14:32 |
| qschulz | ndec: indeed | 14:33 |
| qschulz | we've to settle for something now I think so we don't make it too hard on Paul and then we can take some time to make it neater later on? | 14:33 |
| ndec | yes. i agree. | 14:33 |
| qschulz | but obviously , this opens the possibility that we won't have a look at it later | 14:33 |
| ndec | yes, of course. this is how things work ;) | 14:34 |
| ndec | if we open a BZ about it, then at least we will get an annoying reminder | 14:34 |
| qschulz | ah right, I always forget about BZ | 14:35 |
| ndec | shooting for :oe_layer:`meta-foo` is a good thing. | 14:35 |
| qschulz | well, then let's tell Paul we go for the TL;DR to have something working at least :) | 14:35 |
| ndec | yes, i am going to reply that. | 14:36 |
| qschulz | :oe_layer:`/` needs to be fixed anyway | 14:36 |
| qschulz | :oe_layer:`<>` too, well what I wrote in the TL;DR :) | 14:36 |
| qschulz | ndec: thx for having a look so quickly! | 14:36 |
| ndec | another option would be to leave layer/ out of extlinks. so that we can do layer/meta-goo or layers or recipe/xxx | 14:37 |
| qschulz | mmm.... not bad of an idea | 14:37 |
| qschulz | we still need the branch though | 14:38 |
| qschulz | (that's another topic anyway) | 14:38 |
| qschulz | but yeah, that's better I think. nice suggestion and much easier to maintain | 14:38 |
| qschulz | and understand | 14:38 |
| ndec | but, as we said, let's unblock paul for now. | 14:39 |
| qschulz | 👍 | 14:39 |
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| * paulbarker reads what ndec & qschulz said above | 15:10 | |
| paulbarker | qschulz, ndec: All sounds good. I'll send a v3 | 15:11 |
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| qschulz | paulbarker: it'll teach me to suggest things without testing first :) thx for the patches and your patience | 15:20 |
| paulbarker | qschulz: No problem :) | 15:23 |
| paulbarker | qschulz: Just re-running linkcheck now and making sure everything is as clean as it can be | 15:25 |
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| paulbarker | v3 sent | 15:31 |
| paulbarker | One bug left to go then I'm done until new year | 15:31 |
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| qschulz | paulbarker: happy holidays then :) | 15:35 |
| LetoThe2nd | i'll be talking about multiconfigs in about 17 minutes: https://www.twitch.tv/theyoctojester | 15:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | 16:43 find yourself a drink and get comfy | 15:43 |
| rburton | will you have a drink? | 15:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | of course. | 15:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: there hasn't been a single live coding session where id didn't have a drink. | 15:47 |
| rburton | awesome | 15:48 |
| * LetoThe2nd feels mightily proud | 15:48 | |
| LetoThe2nd | it's important to have some constant values in your life. | 15:49 |
| tlwoerner | just to confirm there is no weekly call today? | 15:55 |
| rburton | correct | 15:55 |
| tlwoerner | cool, maybe i'll see what this twitch thing is… | 15:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | hehe means you can all watch me screw things up and drink. | 15:55 |
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| LetoThe2nd | hurry up now! click here -> https://www.twitch.tv/theyoctojester <- click here | 15:57 |
| rburton | i'm so excited | 15:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | want me to find you the lordi version of it again? | 15:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | https://youtu.be/fVrl_bYIna0 | 15:59 |
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| moto-timo | https://github.com/raspbernetes/k8s-cluster-installation | 16:08 |
| v0n | hi all | 16:08 |
| moto-timo | interesting | 16:08 |
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| nadrojksc | hello, i have managed to totally baffle myself and i'm not even sure where to start looking to figure out how to fix my issue so i am here hoping someone can give me a clue :) | 16:17 |
| nadrojksc | i am building a poky derivative using crops/poky and when i run it on my workstation it builds fine but when i try and run it on my CI server my build fails at the very end trying to do "write_pixbuf_cache" for all my images | 16:18 |
| nadrojksc | when i dig into the logs, it looks like for a local build it does not even try to do this, but on the CI server, it always tries to do this for all images | 16:19 |
| nadrojksc | exact error is: /work/build/tmp/work/raspberrypi4_64-bantha-linux/bantha-initramfs-image/1.0-r0/intercept_scripts-0858c5d68b427e6a74413dd2b7ab9415d0b032ee6bcd7b213f3843bdc9d83346/update_pixbuf_cache: line 11: | 16:21 |
| nadrojksc | /work/build/tmp/work/raspberrypi4_64-bantha-linux/bantha-initramfs-image/1.0-r0/rootfs/usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/../loaders.cache: No such file or directory | 16:21 |
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| nadrojksc | my images do not contain gdk-pixbuf, nor do they contain any other graphical components - i tried doing `bitbake -e my-image` on both places and diffing the result, didn't see anything other than path/timestamp differences, permissions all look good, running the same docker-compose.yml at both places so tooling/environment should be the same, don't | 16:22 |
| nadrojksc | know what to poke at next | 16:22 |
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| v0n | The eSDK allows to ship an SDK to the customer so that they can build their own application, without having to rebuild the bootloader and kernel for example, correct? | 16:25 |
| nadrojksc | tried totally dumping all my caches and downloads even, happens consistently on the CI server even on a fresh build - i have total control of the CI server so i can do whatever's needful | 16:25 |
| nadrojksc | ok hmm, inside my intercepts_scripts directory, locally everything is -x, on the CI server everything is +x | 16:32 |
| nadrojksc | same scripts in both but they're not executable in the environment that works | 16:32 |
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| nadrojksc | interesting, same in poky/scripts/postinst-intercepts in my checkout, all 0755 on the failing machine and 0644 on the one where it runs correctly | 16:38 |
| nadrojksc | in fact it seems like EVERYTHING in the checkout on the CI server is +x, i think i found the problem... | 16:39 |
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| nadrojksc | ok, i think i fixed it, thanks for listening :D | 16:54 |
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| emrius | Hey, I seem to have an issue with u-boot. I'm using an Orangepi Zero here and when I pull the plug from the device and repower it, the bootload hangs. https://pastebin.com/PmhdrW53 | 17:22 |
| emrius | It says "Loading Environment from MMC... OK" which is a little strange given that the device does not come with eMMC. Or can MMC also mean SD card? | 17:23 |
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| tlwoerner | i want a FILES_${PN} directive to be optional based on a value in DISTRO_FEATURES | 18:24 |
| tlwoerner | do i do some sort of ${@bb.utils.??()} in the string? | 18:26 |
| tlwoerner | FILES_${PN} += "${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'feature', ...)}" ? | 18:26 |
| tlwoerner | or do i do some sort of do_package_append() ? | 18:27 |
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| tlwoerner | hmm conversely, if the objects in a FILES_${PN} don't exist, bitbake doesn't complain | 18:31 |
| tlwoerner | so i guess that's a form of conditional processing | 18:31 |
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| tlwoerner | armpit: i see meta-odroid supports the N2, any idea of that applies to the N2+ as well? | 18:39 |
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| tlwoerner | armpit: nevermind, i see linux-stable has a dts file for the n2-plus, so support shouldn't be too hard to add, and it would be separate | 18:52 |
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| armpit | tlwoerner, I hope so. I just got the N2+ | 19:51 |
| armpit | u-boot is more on a issue | 19:52 |
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| tlwoerner | armpit: cool! i *just* ordered the N2+, looking forward to trying out that Mali-G52 with panfrost ;-) | 19:54 |
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| mtb | hi | 21:00 |
| mtb | I'm looking for a way to make a separate yocto base image, with an overlay image with selected packages (and their dependencies that are not included in the base image) | 21:01 |
| mtb | so that the overlay image can be mount ontop of the base image with overlayfs, extending it | 21:02 |
| mtb | is there a standard or otherwise "nice" way to do it? | 21:02 |
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| mtb | I have an idea to use rootfs from the "base" image during do_rootfs of the "extended" image, with overlayfs already mounted with empty writable upperdir | 21:15 |
| mtb | so that the things that are changed will be properly handled by the overlayfs itself | 21:15 |
| mtb | that however requires root privileges to mount the overlayfs during build | 21:16 |
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| mtb | and also I'm not quite sure if the rootfs will always be enough to tell the package manager that the "base" packages are already present (if the image is build without internal package management, for example) | 21:17 |
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| mtb | another idea would be to build both "base" and "extended" image separately, then, maybe outside of the yocto build process, overlay mount the base image and use a tool like rsync to apply the differences to the mount | 21:39 |
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