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moto-timozeddii: hidden bison... I see a movie script04:08
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jdrol /msg NickServ identify 241105:04
jdrolhello what I habe t use gatesgarth or poky-3.2.2 ?05:07
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qschulz_jdrol: poky-x.y.z are tags IIRC, so it all depends if you want a "rolling release" of gatesgarth or plan to use dot releases (tags) only09:05
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jdrolqschulz_ what is difference between gatesgarht and 3.2.2 ?09:23
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RobertBerger@jdrol: gatesgarth is the codename for yocto project version 3.2. the current version is 3.2.209:29
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RobertBerger@jdrol: here http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/log/?h=gatesgarth you see gatesgarth is a branch in a git repo. http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tag/?h=yocto-3.2.2 is a release tag09:31
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t_unix[m]hi09:33
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jdrolRobertBerger, thanks ...and alls this branch are the same in Openembedded git ?09:37
RobertBerger@jdrol: in other meta-layers you just need to make sure to be compatible e.g. by using the gatestgarth branch as well. There is not necessarily a 3.2.2 tag,  but that's fine.09:39
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RobertBerger@jdrol: in the specific case I showed above it's all the same git repo: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky09:40
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t_unix[m]how is one supposed to specify a dependency on a package to provide a user group (i.e. systemd(-journal))?09:40
RobertBerger@jdrol: note that there is also a gatesgarth-next branch and that the gatesgarth branch is already on something newer compared to 3.2.209:41
jdrolok thanks09:42
RobertBerger@jdrol: so, as @qschulz_ pointed out it's up to you what you use. You decide on the version e.g. gatesgarth and than the fun starts ;)09:43
jdrolok09:43
LetoThe2ndt_unix[m]: you want your package to create a use/group?09:51
t_unix[m]I've created a useradd package that appends the user to the `systemd-journal` group. But it fails to configure my package for the rootfs, because the group `systemd-journal` is missing.09:52
t_unix[m]the `systemd-journal` group is provided/instanciated by the package `systemd`09:53
LetoThe2ndt_unix[m]: and a "simple" depends doesn't solve it?09:53
t_unix[m]unfortunately it does not. RDEPENDS -> building package fails. DEPENDS -> fails while installing (`do_rootfs` of corresponding image)09:55
LetoThe2ndt_unix[m]: i see.09:59
t_unix[m]I assume I need to inject a specific task dependency, like "systemd:do_rootfs"?10:00
t_unix[m]the example `useradd-example.bb` does not cover this case.10:01
LetoThe2ndyes, i've also never heard of the requirement so far.10:04
t_unix[m]but it does make sense, doesn't it? I mean same circumstances apply to bluetooth, wifi, .... ?10:06
LetoThe2ndi'm not sure i can properly comment, sorry.10:07
qschulz_t_unix[m]: it used to be an issue, don't know if it's been fixed or not10:09
qschulz_t_unix[m]: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1341910:10
t_unix[m]well question is what happens, if there are two packages that declare the same `GROUPADD_PARAM_${PN} = "-r systemd-journal"`10:11
t_unix[m]likely return code 910:11
t_unix[m]qschulz_: thanks you!10:12
t_unix[m]*thank10:13
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JosephAntonyCould anybody share some of their bashrc tweaks done for easy file navigation in a large yocto system ?10:57
derRichardgit grep :-)10:57
rburtonopen all the layers in vscode as a workspace10:59
JosephAntonyderRichard Thanks:)  was new info to me11:00
JosephAntony@rburton11:00
qschulz_JosephAntony: I use fd (find-fd in some distro) extensively, silversearch-ag (ag) as git grep, and just started trying to use fzf11:00
JosephAntony@rburton But will vscode be able to index them properly ?11:01
rburtonwhat do you mean by index11:01
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JosephAntony@rburton I meant when we click on function declarations, will it be able to go directly to the function definitions ?11:02
rburtonif you open a python file, yes.11:02
rburtonthere's a bitbake extension which sort of works for classes11:02
GeneralStupidis it possible to teach udhcpc to do link local11:03
JosephAntonyqschulz_ Thanks :)11:03
rburtonJosephAntony: like pressing Goto Definiton on 'inherit meson' opens meson.bbclass11:03
JosephAntonyrburton Okay Got it.11:05
JosephAntonyActually question in my mind was related to folder navigation and find and searching files... from large yocto11:06
JosephAntonySharing my tweaks too.11:07
JosephAntonyalias findrcp='find ./meta-*/meta*/rec* ./meta-*/rec* ./open* -iname '11:07
JosephAntonyto find recipes fast.11:07
JosephAntonyThis must be added to bashrc file11:07
rburtonmeh, cmd-p in vscode is faster :)11:08
JosephAntonyPlease share if you have anything like this11:08
rburton(i wanted to open ovmf_git.bb, so just did cmd-p ovbb[return])11:09
JosephAntonyyeah.11:10
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JosephAntonymy yocto repo is c++ code. Indexing does not seem to work well.. Dont know if I need to enable some settings in vscode11:12
JosephAntony@rbu11:13
LetoThe2ndJosephAntony: are we talking about the metadate now, or are we talking about an application that you want to build/develop?11:15
qschulz_LetoThe2nd: highly suspecting it's a case of "one git repo for code and build system"11:20
rburtoneek11:20
JosephAntonyNo. multiple git repos11:20
qschulz_JosephAntony: "my yocto repo is c++ code" you need to elaborate a bit more then what you mean by that11:21
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JosephAntonysingle yocto system with multiple git repos. I have a large build directory. where so many recipes are bitbaked and source content is available. 80 percent of code is in C++. I11:22
qschulzJosephAntony: are you looking into the build directory? I rarely have the need to do so, any particular usecase?11:22
qschulzyou can always add the build directory to a blocklist in your indexer?11:23
JosephAntonyhow do you understand code flow between libraries ? I grep ''function names'' in build directory to understand the code flow of who calls whom11:23
LetoThe2ndthat all doesn't go together.11:25
JosephAntonyLetoThe2nd I did not understand. maybe I am doing in the wrong way11:26
LetoThe2ndeither we are talking about the payload application, or we are talking about the metadata. and as the metadata usually isn't c++, the question and informations are not exactly understandable.11:26
JosephAntonywe are talking about payload appln now.11:27
JosephAntonyleave meta-data part.11:27
LetoThe2ndso what is the question then? that you have a payload application written in c++, and you want to be able to browse headers?11:28
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JosephAntonymy exact qn was I have payload app in c++. Since the directory paths are very large and difficult to traverse between directories what were the tweaks applied in command line/ bashrc file.11:33
rburtonDon't poke at the build directory directly11:34
rburtonuse devtool to put the source/build tree outside of the build directory and open that instead11:34
LetoThe2ndrburton: ++11:35
JosephAntonyrburton Okay. had not heard about devtool. Only heard dev-shell11:36
JosephAntonythanks11:36
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LetoThe2ndanother prime example why it is so important to ask as clear and concise as possible. :)11:39
JosephAntonyokay. Sure.. Will do it next time :)11:40
LetoThe2ndhave fun!11:45
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jdrolhello Can I extend a .bbappend one more time ?12:07
RPjdrol: yes, they can be stacked12:09
jdrolRP : in order of  recipes and meta ?12:10
RPjdrol: I don't understand the question12:10
jdrolsorry. the first meet is the first applied ?12:11
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dl9pfjdrol: all bbappends are concatenated together12:13
jdrolfor example I want to change the busybox config.. I see there is an bbappend12:14
dl9pfyou can add your own bbappend ... it will be added to the mix.12:16
jdrolthanks12:18
* RP files another diffoscope performance bug12:20
RPjdrol: They're ordered by the order they're found in BBFILES12:21
jdrolok12:22
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RPAny make experts around? Do some versions of make add a whitespace for  "INSTALL_TARGETS+=<tab>" and some not? :/12:33
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LetoThe2ndRP: long shot, but.. do you have any ideas how to tackle a build essentially being "stuck"? situation is docker-in-lxc-on-host, and during somewhat longer builds i keep on seeing that it just "stops", like at task 5xxx of 8yyy. then only the time counters per task go up, no other activity can be seen.12:43
RPLetoThe2nd: can you ssh in? see what its running from ps ax?12:44
RPLetoThe2nd: I think rburton has a script which can tell which tasks didn't run from the logs too12:44
RPLetoThe2nd: which tasks started but didn't finish12:44
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LetoThe2ndRP: into the docker container? i probably can attach.12:46
LetoThe2ndhtop on the outer lxc is non-revelealing too.12:46
RPLetoThe2nd: the processes do updated their names to match the task they're running12:47
LetoThe2ndRP: ok. once i've got the situation reproduced again i'll try and see.12:48
* RP confirms make does behave differently depending on version 12:49
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jmieheHi! I wrote a recipe for my app. It clones a git repository, which unpacks into $WORKDIR/git, so I used S=$WORKDIR/git. I need to apply a patch, which is listed in SRC_URI and works out of the box.12:56
jmieheProblem: Applying the patch also creates a hidden dir in $S containing the original source. Unfortunately, this is in scope of the app's build process and thus will not compile.12:56
jmieheOf course, I can manually de-clutter the $S directory before building (git clean -xdf /// rm -rf .pc /// whatever) or I can patch the build process to explicitly exclude the quilt directories, but both of these seem wrong/redundant.12:56
jmieheWhat's the correct approach here?12:56
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RPjmiehe: OE assumes it can preserve its quilt structure there. It seems odd that something would try and build things in the patches and .pc directories, I'd probably patch the build process13:26
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jmieheso it's fine to patch and build in $WORKDIR/git, and it's not unusual to have the .pc directory in there as well?13:28
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zeddiinot unusual at all.13:29
jmieheI wondered if I should somehow end up with sources in $WORKDIR/git and the quilt structure in (maybe) $WORKDIR/$PN-$PV13:29
zeddiia build system that rattles through searching for source files that aren't explicitly listed in directories, that's odd.13:30
RPjmiehe: the system isn't built to work like that and you'll have trouble trying13:32
RPjmiehe: normally you'd build in ${B} btw, not ${S}13:33
RPbuild output is usually separate from the source13:33
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jmieheRP: I didn't touch $B though, I just set $S in the recipe head to be $WORKDIR/git. $B seems to be updated automatically; so I guess I'm building in $B :)13:37
jmiehetbh, I wasn't even aware of $B, but it makes perfect sense considering CMake exists13:38
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rburtonRP LetoThe2nd: https://github.com/rossburton/ross-tools/blob/master/findfails is close but not quite13:45
RPzeddii: Is https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/48/builds/3176 due to needing a rev bump for genericx86?13:46
RPkmaincent: ^^^ I'm hoping zeddii can help us with that warning13:46
RPkmaincent: probably the same warning in the wic build13:46
Ad0hm what happens with systemd logs when you turn readonly fs on ?13:46
RPrburton: I always get this mixed up I think!13:46
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Ad0Deleted archived journal /run/log/journal/e8a2662d151f4c67b0428a594bef089d/system@410a63dc3b8f4bb6ad9229edf171f4d8-0000000000039eec-0005bcdff4607250.journal (8.0M)13:52
Ad0now my system is responsive again13:52
Ad0so where does it go in a readonly file system? heh13:54
zeddiiRP: hmm. no. I'll fix it, but it's a bit fussy.  I'll need to get a bit of time to do it later today.13:55
zeddiiRP: halstead: any known issues with git.yoctoproject.org ? for some reason, I can't push to my kern-tools repo right now. Trying to add the patch submission README, and I'm bouncing on permission denied13:57
RPzeddii: are you using push.yoctoproject.org ?14:05
RPzeddii: I should have caught the warning pre merge, sorry14:06
zeddiisame as I've always been using.   ssh://git@git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-kernel-tools and/or push.yoctoproject.org14:07
RPzeddii: should be push if you're pushing as I know there are plans to split for mirroring14:07
zeddiiRP: I'm on it, I'll send a fix in my queue later today. It's something I introduced to fix the boot trace on qemux86, but it is only patched in for the qemu machines. Something is re-using the fragment, and hence is triggering the warning. so I have to detangle it a bit.14:08
zeddiipush doesn't work either14:08
zeddiiFATAL: W any yocto-kernel-tools bruce.ashfield@gmail.com DENIED by fallthru14:08
zeddiithat being said, I have been known to think things are broken in the past and have somehow fat-fingered the push line :D14:09
zeddiisince i quite often type them by hand.14:09
zeddiibut I've checked this a few times, and I'm not seeing where I screwed it up.14:09
RPzeddii: I'm not seeing any change in the server config and I can push to things14:10
zeddiihmm. same key as all my other repos. I'll ignore it for now and try again later.14:11
RPzeddii: can you send me the output of ssh git@push.yoctoproject.org14:12
RPzeddii: checking the config it says you have access14:12
zeddiimaybe I'm somehow repeaditly screwing up my passprhase.14:12
zeddiilet me consult with ssh-agent14:12
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kmaincentRP: zeddii: Duly noted thanks.14:17
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jdrolis there some recipe to get keyboard in french ?14:47
LetoThe2ndrburton: ah thanks14:50
qschulzjdrol: setxkbmap I guess?14:51
jdroltks14:51
LetoThe2ndwouldn't it be enough to grab a sharpie and paint funny dots and dashes over random vowels?14:52
* LetoThe2nd ducks and runs14:52
qschulzLetoThe2nd: said the one with umlaut keys14:53
LetoThe2ndsays the one who .. erm... *looks at keyboard* ... nevermind.14:55
qschulzjdrol: BTW, I use qwerty keyboards with English International with altgr dead key. It's the dream, can still write accent, whatever the language but the keyboard layout is qwerty which is MUCH easier to develop with IMO14:57
qschulz(did the switch something like 6 years ago, best decision ever)14:58
jdrol:)14:58
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LetoThe2ndone day i'll switch keyboard to some super esorteric layout on chorded hardware, effectively making sure that nobody will ever touch my box again. but OTOH, i regularly work on a laptop.14:59
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RPLetoThe2nd: I do enjoy watching Americans try and use a UK keyboard :)15:15
RPI can learn which characters are in their passwords fairly quickly15:16
LetoThe2ndRP: a real classic. thats why it makes sense to construct passwords that are layout independent :)15:18
qschulzLetoThe2nd: I see I'm not alone :D15:26
qschulzthough.. that technically makes brute forcing faster... shouldn't have said that15:27
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armpitYPTM: armin is on15:55
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halsteadzeddii, Ping me when you are able to troubleshoot git pushes.16:02
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halsteadYPTM: Knocked off the call by an audio issue. Back after a reboot.16:12
rburtonYPTM ross joined, late16:14
vdlwhat is denix's email address?16:19
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vdlho, he's Denys I presume?16:25
smurray vdl: yeah, look in meta/conf/distro/include/maintainers.inc in oe-core / poky16:25
vdlsmurray: yeah but I wanted to make sure about the denix -> denys mapping ;-)16:26
smurrayvdl: heh, if you look for denix in that file in master it'll be clear16:26
vdlsmurray: ho sorry, I had dunfell checked out, where he wasn't using his @denix address yet.16:29
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vdlI'm subscribed to poky@, but I need to subscribe to meta-ti@ as well to send a single patch, right? :(16:33
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emriusHey folks, do you use any linter in your repos to check your recipes? If yes, which one? I found this one quite useful but would like to know if there are alternatives or industry standards https://pypi.org/project/oelint-adv/17:13
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qschulzemrius: never heard of that one before, thanks for the link :)17:17
qschulzafraid to run it on our layers :p17:17
emriuslooks horrible! Youve been warned17:29
emriusI mean the output is massive17:30
emriusbut was very helpful for me17:30
emriusstart with a single recipe17:30
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qschulzemrius: already blind17:39
qschulzemrius: does it not have glob support though?17:39
qschulzhow did you lint a whole layer for example?17:39
emriusqschulz: I never did. I just ran it on a couple of recipes and fixed what seemed reasonable. But I'll include it in my CI pipeline asap.17:44
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rburtonmy god that is the most pedantic lint tool i've ever seen18:02
rburtonFILES_${PN}' should not be overriden18:02
rburtonFALSE18:02
rburtonINSANE_SKIP should be avoided at any cost18:02
rburtonsure, but linting on it? Madness.18:02
rburtoni linted a layer by using $(find) but managed to make it hang in the process18:03
emriusIt's nice that its super pedantic. Isn't that the sole purpose of a linter? You can disable certain types of warnings as far as I understand18:06
rburtona linter is no good if you ignore the warnings because its telling you that you should try to avoid variables18:07
rburtonyes, i should, but i can't18:07
emriusfair enough18:09
emriusWell, 10 stars on github looks like a rather new project. Time to get hands dirty :)18:10
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jordemortoh yeah i tried that one once and all it did was make me feel bad18:21
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JPEWRP: There is a libiconv patch on master-next of meta-mingw... do you still need that?18:24
emrius:)18:24
moto-timohttps://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=kweihmann.oelint-vscode18:24
moto-timo^^ will let you run it in vscode18:25
moto-timoI haven't played with it though18:25
RPJPEW: no18:28
RPJPEW: newer autoconf fixed that issue18:28
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JPEWRP: OK. Pushed a master-next for testing18:37
JPEWwhen you have a chance18:38
RPJPEW: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/89/builds/318518:43
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jonesv[m]qschulz: so I'm checking `CONFIG_DEFAULT_DEVICE_TREE` in the u-boot menuconfig, and it says `am335x-evm`. So I'm assuming it will take `./build/tmp/work/pocketbeagle-poky-linux-gnueabi/u-boot/1_2020.07-r0/git/arch/arm/dts/am335x-evm.dts`. Is that correct? I have another one, but if I understand correctly that's a dts for the kernel, not for u-boot:21:15
jonesv[m]`./build/tmp/work-shared/pocketbeagle/kernel-source/arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-evm.dts`21:15
jonesv[m]The problem I have is that I am trying to set usb to "peripheral" mode, because `dm tree` shows that the driver loaded is `ti-musb-host` and I want my pocketbeagle to be in usb gadget mode in u-boot, for fastboot. And to do that, I added `dr_mode = "peripheral"` to this dts. But it does not change the loaded driver.21:17
jonesv[m]I am not sure if I'm rebuilding correctly, though. After I change the .dts, I run `bitbake u-boot`, then `bitbake -c clean <my-image>` and `bitbake <my-image>`. Shouldn't that use the modifier dts for u-boot then?21:17
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dl9pfRP: I've a strange thing here which might be prserv/hashserv/sstate related. libtool-native is pulled from our sstate-mirror and will make srecord-native fail to compile.  E.g.:21:31
dl9pflibtool-native pulled from sstate looks like:21:32
dl9pfhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Hyjmfftp/21:32
dl9pfbut the host we're building on has /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/7/21:32
JPEWdl9pf: Are you using uninative?21:34
dl9pfyes21:35
JPEWHmm, I suppose it gets that path from the host GCC21:35
dl9pfit looks like sys_lib_search_path_spec   is not adapted  but 2 lines below    sys_lib_dlsearch_path_spec  is adapted.21:36
dl9pfhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nLTikkI6/21:37
dl9pfso some bits are adapted to the machine that we're running on right now, but the sys_lib_search-path_spec seems to be from the host when sstate was build back then.21:38
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JPEWdl9pf: There are quite a few patches dealing with sys_lib_dlsearch_path21:39
dl9pfso in my case things end-up linking using  the 'wrong' values in sys_lib_search_path_spec   which obviously fails21:39
JPEWdl9pf: Ya. It also looks like libtool.bb should be handling that in do_install21:40
dl9pfI'll follow that lead ... let's see21:40
dl9pflibtool.bb does a do_install sed calls, but not libtool-native21:44
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dl9pfah, its compiler_lib_search_dirs as well21:52
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dl9pfhow does the current TOPDIR  get in there at all21:54
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dl9pflooks to me the fixpath and fixpath.cmd in sysroots-components/x86-64/libtool-native  are not catching these22:00
RPdl9pf: we assume libtool-native isn't host specific and can be used on different OSs :/22:08
dl9pfcompiler_lib_search-dirs  is really different22:09
RPdl9pf: knowing what generic values to use there per host is hard :/22:09
dl9pfindeed22:09
RPdl9pf: A quick fix might be to use the same tricky we use with pseudo-native22:09
dl9pfbut /usr/lib/something  vs /usr/lib64/something   is a difference22:09
dl9pflooking ...22:10
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RPI'd warn that whilst that works, it was partly the trigger of the runqueue issue I spent ages trying to find and it does nasty things with the task tree when an early native isn't present22:10
RPI think modern runqueue could handle it much better but I'd not done any work on that yet22:10
dl9pfcan't find what you mean in pseudo.bb22:15
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dl9pfcompiler_lib_search_dirs needs to be mangled for libtool-native when installed through sstate to the output of   g++ --print-search-dirs | grep "libraries:"22:23
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jonesv[m]I'm a bit confused: the only way I find for bitbake to build u-boot.img and put it into build/tmp/deploy/images/<my_image>/ is by running bitbake -c cleansstate u-boot, but then I cannot change the `.dts`. How would I do that? Is there another `-c` that I can use? `-c do_compile` does not install it...22:37
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khemRP:  I reworked the webkit/riscv patch, so please drop v1 and use v222:44
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Spoosterjonesv[m]: You can try '-c clean' but I don't know enough to really help you further22:45
khemjonesv: apply your change as a patch22:46
jonesv[m]Thanks Spooster . I have tried too, but then it does not reinstall it. The only one that does it is `-c cleansstate`22:46
jonesv[m]khem: aha, so I `.bbappend` u-boot and patch it?22:46
khemright dts files can be patched22:48
Spoosterand just listing the patch in the FILES in your .bbappend should apply it22:48
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RPkhem: thanks, updated -next23:27
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RPdl9pf: mangling it to the right value is definitely the preferred solution23:49
RPdl9pf: we should be able to arrange to do that in do_populate_sysroot_setscene maybe as a postfunc?23:49
RPor maybe just appending23:49
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RPdl9pf: looks like I hardcoded the tweak I was thinking of related to pseudo-native sstate in sstate.bbclass23:52
RP        if d.getVar("PN") == "pseudo-native":23:52
RP            d.appendVar('SSTATE_PKGARCH', '_${ORIGNATIVELSBSTRING}')23:52
RPI hardcoded it deliberately to stop anyone using it very easily as it has nasty side effects I mentioned23:53

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