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| yates | in case this helps anyone else, i figured out how to get at the build dependencies: add -g to the bitbake command, which will result in a <file>.dot file in the build directory, then using graphviz's "dot" command, convert to something viewable "dot <file>.dot -Tpdf -o <file>.pdf" | 03:25 |
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| yates | this generates a humongous, levely dependency graph. | 03:25 |
| yates | danka yocto! | 03:26 |
| yates | lovely | 03:26 |
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| rfs613 | yates: nice to know that option works... last time I tried it, 'dot' program never completed (left it running for hours...) | 12:57 |
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| rfs613 | qschulz: I finally seem to have solve my issue with gitsm fetcher... | 13:10 |
| rfs613 | your tip of forcing the do_fetch was the key. | 13:11 |
| rfs613 | thanks! | 13:11 |
| qschulz | rfs613: care to explain what was the issue so that it is part of this IRC channel archives? | 13:13 |
| rfs613 | qschulz: the problem basically came down to the fact that the URL of a package using gitsm: changed (because sources got moved to another git server) | 13:14 |
| rfs613 | at the same time, one of those submodules also gained a new submodule of its own | 13:15 |
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| rfs613 | evidently this confused yocto's tracking logic, so it never called the do_download, which then resulted in errors during do_unpack. | 13:17 |
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| rfs613 | your tip of doing "bitbake -c do_fetch -f recipe.bb" fixed the problem locally | 13:18 |
| rfs613 | it was a bit more of a slog to do the same in CI but I managed eventually ;-) | 13:19 |
| qschulz | rfs613: mmmm, feels like a proper bug report should be opened for that? forcing a fetch shouldn't be needed | 13:21 |
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| rfs613 | qschulz: then I'd need to be able to reproduce it on demand... and having already banged my head on this for a week, I'm really not feeling up to any more... | 13:25 |
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| yates | "CI"? | 13:59 |
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| yates | rfs613: buy you a beer if you do! | 14:00 |
| rfs613 | yates: Jenkins in this case... you know, a build system located on somebody else's servers, which you can't debug easily without involving a dozen 3rd parties, etc... | 14:01 |
| rfs613 | but all the cool kids are using it so it must be good :-) | 14:01 |
| yates | yah, must be... | 14:01 |
| yates | i've [not] had the good fortune to use such things yet | 14:02 |
| rfs613 | yates: in the end I think the error message yocto gave me was correct... it was just not making sense to me. As I had just changed the gitsm URL, I assumed the problem was with the syntax of my URL. So I started experimenting with different URLs, at one point switching back to git instead of gitsm, etc. | 14:02 |
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| rfs613 | so possibly I made the problem worse by those efforts. | 14:03 |
| yates | i find many of my problems in my technical work come down to semantic issues and/or definitions of words/phrases. | 14:04 |
| rfs613 | the key realization was that it failed to download the repos (do_fetch) and yet tried to clone them (do_unpack). I only figured this out by adding logger.debug() prints inside the python code. Which of course was a whole level I wasn't planning on going into... | 14:04 |
| rfs613 | correct, it didn't fail to download, rather, it did not even attempt to download. | 14:04 |
| rfs613 | s/correct/correction/ | 14:05 |
| yates | sounds like a possible bug. would be good to bug-report it | 14:05 |
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| yates | but i hear you - everything wants a piece of your time.. | 14:05 |
| rfs613 | I hear you... but having been on the other end of such reports... I know where it will go... can I reproduce it using latest version? | 14:06 |
| yates | ooo, yeah, i hate that. do you know how many fedora bug reports i filed only to get a string of "EOL - won't fix" resolutions over the next few years..? | 14:07 |
| yates | (my home systems all use fedora - f32 now. started way back at fc3) | 14:08 |
| rfs613 | what, not f33... ? :P | 14:09 |
| yates | talk about CI.. | 14:09 |
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| rfs613 | I stopped reporting fedora bugzilla on account of every single bug landing in that EOL pile... | 14:10 |
| yates | they need to start coming out with fractional release numbers... f32.0, f32.1, ... | 14:10 |
| yates | you too? hrm.. | 14:10 |
| yates | rfs613: are you using something older than gatesgarth on you CI system(s)? | 14:14 |
| yates | your | 14:14 |
| rfs613 | yates: dunfell currently... | 14:14 |
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| yates | how do i grab hardknott? | 14:31 |
| yates | ..or just browse it on line? | 14:32 |
| yates | i want to check of gcc has been updated to 10.3 instead of 10.2 in gatesgarth | 14:33 |
| ocj | hi, is qtwebengine for mips64el supported by yocto? | 14:34 |
| theodiem | yates: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/recipes-devtools/gcc?h=hardknott , but I don't see 10.3 there | 14:36 |
| yates | i don't either. thanks theo | 14:37 |
| yates | i don't either. thanks theodiem | 14:37 |
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| yates | is this just a matter of "haven't gotten around to it" or is there some reason 10.3 is not in the latest yocto? | 14:43 |
| qschulz | yates: gcc is never changed once a release has been made IIRC. You get bumps with new releases. For the release after hardknott, it'll be gcc 11 | 14:45 |
| qschulz | yates: c.f. https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?h=master-next&id=8405c2ec333e15577725792f1f1ee0456d0cda9a | 14:46 |
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| yates | qschulz: but gcc-11.0 isn't even released yet.. https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gcc | 15:11 |
| fray | yates hardknott (the next release) is still on gcc 10.2 | 15:26 |
| fray | the version after will be gcc 11 (most likely) based on current in-progress work | 15:26 |
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| RP | qschulz: not true, we'd consider gcc bugfixes | 15:30 |
| qschulz | RP: would you consider an upgrade from 10.2 to 10.3 for example? | 15:32 |
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| fray | we have in the past, but the upgrades were small, targeted and auditable.. | 15:32 |
| RP | qschulz: we have in the past, depending on what was in 10.3 | 15:32 |
| RP | qschulz: gcc point releases tend to be bugfix/stable | 15:33 |
| qschulz | yates: the earlier YP get started on using newer GCC, the better it is, because we can give feedback to GCC developers about potential bugs or issues before they even release. And also, it helps fixing warnings/errors in other SW and send patches to those projects to support newer GCC too. Hopefully it's not too far from reality what I'm saying but RP will correct me for sure :) | 15:34 |
| qschulz | RP: thx for correcting me | 15:34 |
| RP | qschulz: the general policy is to avoid upgrades, unless it is an upstream stable series with a policy we can align with, gcc tends to be relatively good at point releases | 15:35 |
| RP | gcc 11 is testing in -next so we have a chance to correct the final release if we did find issues and reported them | 15:36 |
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| qschulz | 👍 | 15:44 |
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| mcfrisk | can anyone recall what fixes missing python3 raise exceptions logs from bitbake output when comparing sumo and master? spent ages looking at why some fetcher code was failing only to find out that raise FetchError("The SRCREV_FORMAT...") just isn't visible in failing task output. on master it is. | 15:58 |
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| mcfrisk | note to self, old bitbake's really need 2f17b87f9712d0e218d656dae0037d15a019f9f6 to log exceptions properly | 17:05 |
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| vdl | where are global cert and key file usually found? in a "files/" directory at the root of the layer? | 19:05 |
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| yates | fray, RP, qschulz: The reason I'm trying to do this is that I am attempting to build the toolchain for a new architecture: csky. I getting an error in the do_configure for libgcc and I suspect it may be solved with the latest, released version of gcc. Some changes for the csky architecture have been made in the past few months. | 19:18 |
| yates | i am trying to force an update to 10.3, that is | 19:18 |
| yates | I tried copying all the *10.2.* files in poky/meta/recipes-devtools/gcc to *10.3.* but it is still building for 10.2. How do i get the populate_sysroot to build for 10.3 instead? | 19:18 |
| yates | (that is, from my gatesgarth checkout) | 19:19 |
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| rfs613 | yates: have you got a poky/meta/recipes-devtools/gcc-*.inc file? For me (on dunfell) this one has PV = "9.3.0" hardcoded into it, and this int urn determine name of gcc tarball used. | 19:35 |
| zeddii | has anyone seen meson refusing to use the host getent ? or declaring it as non-executable ? | 19:35 |
| rfs613 | yates: also there is a long list of patches, which probalby won't apply cleanly on a different gcc version... | 19:36 |
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| yates | rfs613: good catch, but that wasn't it | 19:59 |
| yates | aha | 20:00 |
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| yates | khem: thanks! just got your email | 20:00 |
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| rfs613 | yates: could be coming from another layer maybe? | 20:01 |
| yates | bump GCCVERSION as well in meta/conf/distro/include/tcmode-default.inc | 20:01 |
| yates | (from khem ^^^^) | 20:01 |
| khem | yates: sent a patch for 10.3 update as well | 20:01 |
| khem | so if you want to try it | 20:01 |
| khem | https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/commit/?h=kaj/gcc11&id=f3f98b936ed9abb509d76d6f3c02f2d17fa468a7 | 20:02 |
| yates | khem: thank you! i will try it immediately | 20:02 |
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| khem | k | 20:03 |
| khem | you can also try gcc-11 if you want which is in same branch :) | 20:03 |
| khem | if you are feeling adventurous | 20:03 |
| yates | baby steps... | 20:04 |
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| yates | khem: are you from India? | 20:09 |
| yates | my wife is from Bangalore. | 20:09 |
| yates | she speaks Tamil, kannadu, and hindi | 20:10 |
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| manuel__ | Hi all! I would like to install a Desktop Environment so my device has a desktop with icons and a panel with clock and wifi widget. Which project is the lightest and easiest to configure? Does the need for touchscreen input reduce the set of available options? | 20:32 |
| manuel__ | I'm talking about a Yocto-created distribution of course. Which packages shall I put inside? | 20:33 |
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| khem | manuel__: XFCE would be something to try | 20:39 |
| yates | i was thinking matchbox-sato is the ticket. | 20:40 |
| yates | manuel__: see here: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/images.html?highlight=sato | 20:45 |
| yates | core-image-sato | 20:45 |
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| RP | khem: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/69/builds/3276/steps/18/logs/stdio - segfault in gcc11 | 22:58 |
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