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| prabhakarlad | Hi All, Is it possible to add EXTRA_OECMAKE_ for two machines and say x, y and not for z ? | 09:15 |
| qschulz | prabhakarlad: either repeat it (e.g. EXTRA_OECMAKE_x and EXTRA_OECMAKE_z) or make use of MACHINEOVERRIDES mechanism to add a "family" in there which x and y machines are part of but not machine z | 09:18 |
| prabhakarlad | qschulz: thanks for the pointer | 09:19 |
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| yann | we should certainly add a note to https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layer/meta-optee/ that this layer is obsolete are that its contents are now maintained in meta-arm. I cannot submit a change with my account there, who can do that ? | 09:59 |
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| rburton | I think I can do that now | 10:11 |
| rburton | ah bit its still getting commits | 10:11 |
| rburton | if its not to be used then the master branch can just be removed | 10:11 |
| rburton | done https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layer/meta-optee/ | 10:13 |
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| Mahesh | Hi | 10:14 |
| Mahesh | i want strip some of python packages (unnecessary) from the build | 10:15 |
| * RP is curious whether bitbake-getvar in master-next is useful | 10:16 | |
| Mahesh | so that it will reduce the size of python package | 10:16 |
| Mahesh | python modules | 10:16 |
| Mahesh | * | 10:17 |
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| Mahesh | how can yocto facilitate this | 10:17 |
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| mr_qwertz | Is there a simple way how to create a symlink for the rootfs e.g. my_rootfs.ext4.gz so that the MACHINE is not included in the filename? | 10:32 |
| mr_qwertz | Or that the MACHINE is not part of any image recipe? | 10:34 |
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| Mahesh | [3:45:42 PM] <Mahesh> i want strip some of python packages (unnecessary) from the build | 10:35 |
| qschulz | mr_qwertz: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-IMAGE_NAME should help you out | 10:37 |
| qschulz | mr_qwertz: otherwise: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-IMAGE_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND if you just want to add symlinks | 10:37 |
| qschulz | Mahesh: don't add them to your image? If that is not the issue, find out where those packages are added (DEPENDS/RDEPENDS?) can they be not included depending on PACKAGECONFIG option? | 10:39 |
| qschulz | bitbake -g will be your friend | 10:40 |
| Mahesh | how to know packages which are not necessary | 10:41 |
| mr_qwertz | qschulz thx | 10:42 |
| LetoThe2nd | Mahesh: so you do actually ask "i want to install less but i don't know what i can leave out"? | 10:43 |
| Mahesh | yes | 10:44 |
| Mahesh | LetoThe2nd | 10:45 |
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| escalion | o/ | 10:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | Mahesh: well then you probably better start out by understanding your requirements, as the yocto build can remove many things, if you can tell what. if you can't tell, yocto is not going to help you. | 10:46 |
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| derRichard | Mahesh: set NO_RECOMMENDATIONS :-) | 10:59 |
| derRichard | but there be dragons | 10:59 |
| derRichard | so listen to LetoThe2nd | 10:59 |
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| LetoThe2nd | derRichard: https://youtu.be/1QSCFI9y3SA | 11:03 |
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| derRichard | LetoThe2nd: \o/ | 11:34 |
| derRichard | good sound | 11:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | derRichard: by now i have sme form of metal for almost any keyword. just to annoy rburton, of course. | 11:35 |
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| derRichard | :-D | 11:36 |
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| Mahesh | LetoThe2nd how to use PACKAGECONFIG variable for removing specific moules of python package | 12:11 |
| Mahesh | modules* | 12:11 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Mahesh: https://youtu.be/559CF3gYCJA | 12:15 |
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| zeddii | RP: something clearly went off the rails in my build! https://pastebin.com/csJctuRh | 12:31 |
| zeddii | that, I've never seen before! | 12:32 |
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| RP | zeddii: I have seen it before, fun when it happens :) | 12:41 |
| zeddii | I remember Tom Zannusi did that on purpose with his python templates he was adding for whatever tool it was .. his design lives on! | 12:43 |
| RP | zeddii: those were insane :) | 12:51 |
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| RP | zeddii: I particularly like the directories called else and if :) | 12:54 |
| zeddii | hehe. good times! | 12:57 |
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| yann | tlwoerner: did you have any time for kernel bsp ? | 13:09 |
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| RP | zeddii, jonmason: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/113/builds/911 - you can argue about who needs to fix that :) | 13:43 |
| tlwoerner | sorry, not yet | 13:45 |
| tlwoerner | yann: are you happy with the changes you posted? (they're marked WIP) | 13:46 |
| tlwoerner | yann: i pulled in the one patch already | 13:46 |
| zeddii | RP: that's with my tweaked kern-tools patch ? if so, I'll fix it. | 13:46 |
| tlwoerner | reduce bbappend duplication | 13:46 |
| tlwoerner | yann: and i pulled in the baud rate change | 13:47 |
| rburton | zeddii: thanks :) | 13:48 |
| zeddii | these are of course, just warnings that have always been hidden :D I'll just need a bit of time to get my local builder setup to reproduce it. I had to remove all my old state due to yet another ailing disk. | 13:49 |
| yann | well, I'm happy with the general direction. I have one fixup for the remaining WIP (put "bsp" in "files/" instead of "linux-yocto/" to avoid poluting FILESEXTRAPATHS). Otherwise, I guess we can work incrementally from there if the approach suits you | 13:49 |
| yann | (incidentally my optee patches build onto that unpublished fixup ;) ) | 13:50 |
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| tiefgruen | Hi :-) | 14:09 |
| tiefgruen | I am reading about wic in the manual. | 14:09 |
| tiefgruen | Shouldn't: | 14:09 |
| tiefgruen | wic create <wks-name> -e <image> | 14:09 |
| tiefgruen | create a wic image? | 14:09 |
| tiefgruen | The output I get are the partitions seperately. | 14:09 |
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| swupdate | There is a huge task do_swuimage that calls several Python functions. Is there a possibility that _append can also be used for a nested Python function that is not themselve a task? | 14:14 |
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| qschulz | swupdate: test and you shall see :) (use bb.warn() in python tasks or bbwarn "" in shell tasks to make it super obvious) | 14:21 |
| swupdate | :D | 14:25 |
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| zeddii | RP: I remember you were saying something about increased parse times. Or maybe I imagined it. It might be part of my messed up build, but I was seeing a two minute start up time on my builds this morning. Trying to decide if I should debug further or chalk it up to a corrupted build. | 15:06 |
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| zeddii | hah. gcc has been packaging for 23 minutes. | 15:24 |
| zeddii | good times. | 15:25 |
| zeddii | but yet, I see no signs of memory pressure or disk issues. | 15:25 |
| * zeddii fires up perf | 15:25 | |
| zeddii | 0: gcc-10.3.0-r0 do_package - 23m6s (pid 25802) | 15:25 |
| zeddii | the kernel is trying to catch up! | 15:25 |
| zeddii | 0: gcc-10.3.0-r0 do_package - 23m6s (pid 25802) | 15:25 |
| zeddii | 'er .. 0: linux-yocto-5.10.30+gitAUTOINC+b7125842b7_8465e471f5-r0 do_package - 18m58s (pid 41147) | 15:26 |
| RP | kergoth: see what you think of the bitbake-getvar patch I sent. Torn on bitbake vs bb and a few other details | 15:36 |
| RP | zeddii: I fixed a parse time issue | 15:37 |
| RP | I think do_package has some kind of performance regression somewhere :/ | 15:37 |
| zeddii | 0: linux-yocto-5.10.30+gitAUTOINC+b7125842b7_8465e471f5-r0 do_package - 32m5s (pid 41147) | 15:39 |
| zeddii | and people wonder why we didn't like slinging kernel source everywhere and make work-shared :D | 15:39 |
| qschulz | zeddii: are you building on a Raspberry Pi :p ? | 15:41 |
| RP | zeddii: oh, I wonder if this is because we fixed gcc's source handling | 15:42 |
| * RP bets that was it | 15:42 | |
| RP | although that shouldn't have changed linux-yocto | 15:43 |
| zeddii | I haven't even switched to meta-arm to try and do that kernel warning fix. | 15:43 |
| zeddii | at this rate, it'll be june before I send a patch | 15:43 |
| zeddii | 0: linux-yocto-5.10.30+gitAUTOINC+b7125842b7_8465e471f5-r0 do_package - 36m24s (pid 41147) | 15:43 |
| zeddii | I'm polling the machine's stats, nothing is showing as error or super pressured. I may just try the windows fix and reboot the builder. which is sad, since I have about 7 months of shell history there :D | 15:44 |
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| qschulz | zeddii: (helping as much as I can...) what about tail -f /proc/41147/fd/2 ? | 15:46 |
| RP | zeddii: would be nice to know what its doing | 15:46 |
| RP | zeddii: might help us improve | 15:46 |
| zeddii | nothing very intersting: https://pastebin.com/BLCtHucx | 15:47 |
| zeddii | I'll check the process state now, it may just be hung up on something. | 15:47 |
| zeddii | but there are others: 1: kernel-devsrc-1.0-r0 do_install - 38m39s (pid 42662) | 15:47 |
| zeddii | but the rest of the tasks are chugging away | 15:48 |
| zeddii | 2: cpio-2.13-r0 do_package_qa - 33s (pid 30154) | 15:48 |
| zeddii | hmm. that process is doing an objcopy | 15:48 |
| zeddii | https://pastebin.com/BD3vBALa | 15:49 |
| zeddii | and going very, very slowly through all the modules. | 15:49 |
| RP | zeddii: it is expected to loop over those, just not sure why its so slow. It should also be doing them in parallel. Did you disable PARALLEL_MAKE? | 15:50 |
| RP | I think it would hook for BB_NUMBER_THREADS anyway | 15:51 |
| zeddii | same local.conf as before. but I agree. super strange. I'll keep an eye on it and keep poking. | 15:51 |
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| zeddii | I'm just totally into setting a world record now! | 15:52 |
| zeddii | 0: linux-yocto-5.10.30+gitAUTOINC+b7125842b7_8465e471f5-r0 do_package - 44m54s (pid 41147) | 15:52 |
| zeddii | what's 45 minutes between friends ? | 15:52 |
| RP | zeddii: are you sure your disk isn't dead, or connected with wet string or something? ;-) | 15:55 |
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| RP | zeddii: I think I've seen times like that but only when I was deleting builds in parallel with running them (or when there was a rouge runqemu eating 100% CPU of a single CPU) | 16:00 |
| zeddii | :D brand new disk! smartctl and the kernel are showing no issues, neither did iotesting. | 16:00 |
| zeddii | agreed, there is something else being evil, and it is hiding from me. | 16:00 |
| zeddii | I'll just restart and see how it goes. I've set my record, the kernel finished packaging! | 16:00 |
| qschulz | would it make sense to add timestamp to log.do_<task> so that it's easier to debug those kinds of issues? (I'd assume at least..) | 16:04 |
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| RP | qschulz: I did try that and it was surprisingly difficult to get right | 16:18 |
| RP | rburton, Saur: who is going to fix the btrfs-tools issue with meta-gplv2? :/ | 16:21 |
| Saur | RP: We do not use btrfs... | 16:21 |
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| Saur | RP: I have not seen anything about btrfs-tools. Where should I look? | 16:25 |
| RP | Saur: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/75/builds/3315/steps/11/logs/stdio is the problem. Looks like its a ptest dependency in util-linux so we can probably just remove that for gplv2 | 16:26 |
| RP | I've put a patch on master-next to see if that helps | 16:29 |
| RP | confirmed, that does seem to fix it | 16:31 |
| qschulz | RP: what were the issues if I may ask? | 16:33 |
| RP | qschulz: btrfs-tools changed to LGPL-3.1 and now breaks meta-gplv2 which excludes the license | 16:34 |
| Saur | RP: Though I guess it will affect running ptest for util-linux if you have meta-gplv2 enabled? | 16:34 |
| RP | Saur: sure. Not sure I'm going to worry about it | 16:35 |
| Saur | Nah, I wouldn't either. :) | 16:35 |
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| rburton | yann: congrats you broke meta-arm :) | 16:40 |
| rburton | not sure how it didn't break in testing but that's testing for you | 16:40 |
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| yann | oh uh :) | 16:51 |
| yann | rburton: any clue why i don't get this QA error ? | 16:53 |
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| yann | looks like my setup is closer to the testing one ? | 16:54 |
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| vdl | how can an image avoid building the kernel and bootloader? | 17:06 |
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| zeddii | rburton: jonmason: the warnings that RP noted this morning come from the defconfig. I can get rid of them in multiple ways ... but want your input. | 17:42 |
| zeddii | these are the warnings : https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/113/builds/911/steps/12/logs/stdio | 17:42 |
| zeddii | I can create a fragment that just sets them to the value we want, we can patch the defconfig, we can declare them non-hardware (and hence no warning) ... | 17:43 |
| yates | my trek to get a toolchain built for the csky architecture is currently parked at libitm - there is no implementation for csky. is libitm _required_ for each architure or is it optional? | 17:43 |
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| jonmason | zeddii: IMHO, it needs to be fixed in the upstream defconfig | 17:48 |
| jonmason | they are modifying the defconfig by hand and not regenerating it | 17:49 |
| jonmason | we're working around some similar silliness in meta-arm-bsp (different warnings though) | 17:49 |
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| zeddii | I can come up with something to mask them in the linux-yocto builds, or I can carry a linux-yocto patch for it. or we convince RP to ignore the warnings ;) | 17:51 |
| johnro1987 | Hello .In previous projects using yocto 2.1 we had only 1 sdk and we were able to a toolchain.cmake file to include in configuration steps and later into and proper IDE to navigate C/C++ sources.Now in yocto dunfell there are multiple sysroots .. any pointer on how to implement same solution? | 17:52 |
| jonmason | zeddii: I think a patch would be better, then we can try to upstream it (and get upset when they say no) | 17:54 |
| jonmason | stable kernel broke qemuarm64-secureboot between 5.10.21 and 5.10.22. So I've been bisecting all morning | 17:55 |
| zeddii | ack'd. I'll cook something up. | 17:55 |
| zeddii | heh. the myth of the stable kernel in action! ;) | 17:56 |
| jonmason | on a positive note, I have gitlab ci running testimage now to find it faster | 17:56 |
| zeddii | nice. I should figure that out myself. | 17:56 |
| jonmason | it took me 2 weeks, but mostly because I'm stupid | 17:56 |
| jonmason | I'd be happy to walk you through it | 17:57 |
| zeddii | so about a month for me | 17:57 |
| jonmason | the trick is to understand that gitlab runner does not run the gitlab docker images inside it, but as a peer | 17:57 |
| zeddii | I'll take you up on that offer. I'll put it on the list with the CVE bash and try to get to them. | 17:57 |
| zeddii | ahah | 17:57 |
| jonmason | https://gitlab.com/jonmason00/meta-arm/-/pipelines/288760615 | 17:58 |
| * zeddii clicks | 17:58 | |
| jonmason | I'm thinking of doing a follow on to Paul Barker's gitlab CI talk, "gitlab CI for dummies" | 17:58 |
| zeddii | I'd be down for that. | 17:59 |
| zeddii | which reminds me. I'm probably almost out of time to submit something for the summit. | 17:59 |
| * zeddii scrawls that on the list. | 17:59 | |
| zeddii | I can just re-offer my failed talks from last time. | 17:59 |
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| jonmason | lol | 18:00 |
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| Crofton|cloud | I'm tempted to annoy people and show how the layer management issue is actually been solved with git submodules | 18:10 |
| swupdate | Use https://github.com/siemens/kas as everybody | 18:11 |
| jonmason | swupdate: I am using that | 18:13 |
| jonmason | I'm even "fixing" the docker image to allow for testimage (builder user needs sudo) | 18:13 |
| jonmason | as soon as I get it fully working on x86 and arm64 builders, I'll push the changes | 18:14 |
| * zeddii uses git pull | 18:14 | |
| jonmason | zeddii: you should at least have a shell script and cronjob | 18:14 |
| zeddii | no way. I want to chose when updates happen. this isn't a CI I'm talking about :D | 18:15 |
| jonmason | sstate pre-population with overnight builds | 18:15 |
| zeddii | doing features, maintenance, bug fixes, etc, I chose when I want to risk explosions :D | 18:16 |
| jonmason | that is fair | 18:16 |
| zeddii | I was clicking around the gitlab stuff you linked, Still can't tell what does what. Clearly I need to do some reading. | 18:17 |
| zeddii | @jonmason are those builds being farmed out to your infrastructure ? | 18:18 |
| zeddii | I wouldn't mind being able to trigger some of that for meta-virt. a bit less for my kernel stuff. | 18:18 |
| jonmason | my desktop has 2 runners | 18:18 |
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| jonmason | essentially, you get gitlab runner docker, then decide how to run the CI. We're using kas inside a docker | 18:19 |
| zeddii | and it uses your runner to exec on the build h/w of your specification ? that's the main thing I want. | 18:20 |
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| jonmason | with a prepopulated sstate, it takes about 40 mins to build everything and run testimage | 18:20 |
| jonmason | yes, it is all running locally | 18:20 |
| jonmason | no servers or cloud | 18:20 |
| zeddii | I'll definitely have to dig into it then. that ticks the big boxes. | 18:20 |
| jonmason | Maybe I should write you and howto as a start of a talk, and you can tell me whats missing and if I'm very stupid or not | 18:21 |
| zeddii | That would be awesome. I have cycles to try and do feedback. | 18:22 |
| jonmason | ok, I'll try to get what I have cleaned up and sent to you in an email | 18:22 |
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| Crofton|cloud | has is read only though? | 18:49 |
| Crofton|cloud | kas | 18:49 |
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| jonmason | Crofton|cloud: what do you mean? you can specify what to build (like branches) and pull images out | 19:06 |
| Crofton|cloud | the submodule has the got hashes of the layers | 19:11 |
| Crofton|cloud | and branches | 19:11 |
| Crofton|cloud | and you can edit and make new branches snd submiot work upstream | 19:11 |
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| jonmason | yes, you can fetch specific versions or track upstream. with gitlab you can schedule jobs. it works out well | 19:29 |
| rburton | Crofton|cloud: our kas/ci stuff is all in meta-arm if you want to dig in | 19:38 |
| rburton | meta-security does the same sort of thing | 19:38 |
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| jonmason | rburton: if meta-security used kasproject/kas docker image, they could reduce their gitlab-ci.yml by 3 lines :) | 19:53 |
| jonmason | I was going to try it out once I got all of our stuff sorted | 19:54 |
| jonmason | zeddii: YP Summit CFP ends tomorrow! You better dig up some old stuff fast ;-) | 19:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | jonmason: off by one... week, actually. https://pretalx.com/yocto-project-summit-2021/cfp | 20:01 |
| zeddii | phew. I can put it off for a lot longer! ;) | 20:05 |
| jonmason | LetoThe2nd: in my defense, I'm not sure what day it is | 20:05 |
| zeddii | jonmason, isn't it riot-eve ? | 20:05 |
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| jonmason | it may be. there was a mini-riot last night locally. | 20:06 |
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| vdl | what is more common term in the yocto vocabulary to describe the system on which the build happens? "host" or "native"? | 21:29 |
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| jonmason | vdl: I would say the build system is the "host" and "native" is the environment on that system | 21:44 |
| RP | vdl: native is probably more usual. The trouble is GNU cross build has specific meanings for build, host and target and they don't mean what people think they do :/ | 21:50 |
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| vdl | RP: I see. Same concerns come to me when I'm designing a system with "host" and containers. While "container" is explicit, "host" images are more prone to confusion. | 22:35 |
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| vdl | When a package isn't available in common layers, do you guys import the recipe in your layer, or do you use the layer providing it as shown on http://layers.openembedded.org? | 22:45 |
| vdl | I don't have strong opinion for simple packages such as "sshpass". | 22:46 |
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| khem | vdl: usually it will depend on your use of that layer, if its just one recipe or you need more core pkgs from it. | 23:20 |
| * armpit sshpass should move to meta-oe | 23:34 | |
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