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| mckoan | good YP-Summit's morning | 07:33 |
| x0n^ | so... if I change layer priorities bitbake won't rebake unless I do_clean the package in question? | 07:40 |
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| mckoan | x0n^: yes | 07:57 |
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| mckoan | FYI people are asking for hands-on class credentials in Slack channel #training-room-summit-2021 | 08:10 |
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| x0n^ | mckoan: shit. how do I force it? I'v re built the entire recipy in question and forced a do_rootfs but the result still looks exactly like the failed first attempt | 08:27 |
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| phatina | all: Hi there. Do you have any experience with eSDK which does not "populate" all the sources from SRC_URI when doing `devtool modify linux-yocto`? If I run this command inside classic build environment, then it builds. Same thing for bitbake. However when I install the eSDK generated for my image, then I can not compile kernel, because of missing files. Any tips? | 08:29 |
| mckoan | x0n^: bitbake -C rootfs | 08:32 |
| mckoan | C uppercase | 08:32 |
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| x0n^ | mckoan: that apparent repacks rootfs. but ain't that the same as what I did by "bitbake -f -c do_rootfs <recipe>"? | 08:36 |
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| RP | rburton: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/113/builds/1036/steps/12/logs/stdio | 08:55 |
| rburton | yeah jonmason did a boo boo | 08:55 |
| rburton | i'll quickly fix up | 08:55 |
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| rburton | curious how it got through CI! | 08:56 |
| rburton | hooray checksum for noticing a licensing change \o/ | 09:01 |
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| rburton | RP: curiously, that exact same recipe worked in our CI | 09:15 |
| rburton | NOTE: recipe trusted-firmware-a-2.5-r0: task do_populate_lic: Succeeded | 09:16 |
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| rburton | ok bug fixed | 09:32 |
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| x0n^ | I could really use some help if someone got the time. can't figure this out: https://termbin.com/3hi3 | 09:40 |
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| x0n^ | build command is: bitbake xen-image-minimal | 09:40 |
| rburton | RP: i can't blame jonmason: he used the kas/CI I wrote to verify the upgrade, and it had a bug that meant it was ignoring some warnings | 09:41 |
| x0n^ | relevant recipe: https://termbin.com/3hi3 | 09:43 |
| x0n^ | oh, right. symptoms: u-boot not flashed onto image, cmdline.txt missing xen options | 09:44 |
| x0n^ | I feel like I'm in a madhouse and bitbake got ALLL the mirros :/ | 09:45 |
| x0n^ | this is what it looks like instead: https://termbin.com/rndo | 09:49 |
| * x0n^ goes pray or something. appreciate any pointers! | 09:50 | |
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| RP | rburton: heh, bug in the CI is annoying :) | 10:10 |
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| kpo | Hello, I've got a raspberry pi yocto system that uses rauc (with uboot) for updating ext4 rootfses, however I'd like to also have two kernels, ideally on those updated rootfses. The kernel uses dt overlays, which reside on FAT /boot partition (as the kernel itself currently). My reasoning is that all those overlays should also be on rootfses to enable updating them in the future, am I correct? Could you give me some keywords that could be useful to | 10:58 |
| kpo | research more? What about devicetree overlays which reside on /boot/overlays, and are loaded using raspberrys config.txt? | 10:58 |
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| qschulz | Has anyone received their confirmation email for slack? Been waiting for ~10min, nothing in the spam/trash/inbox folders | 11:29 |
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| jonmason | rburton: you figure out why it works for us and not RP? | 11:37 |
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| dash1tfvck | if anyone got karma to burn today, please check the backlog for my desperate cry for help. still praying for someone else too look at it because if I do it's just making my head spin at this point | 11:39 |
| qschulz | ok, the email to my work mail address took 15min and on my personal one, 1min don't know what happened, can only blame the bad mail provider :) | 11:42 |
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| rburton | jonmason: yeah, i broke it | 11:46 |
| rburton | fix pushed to all branches so the CI will be busy for a bit | 11:51 |
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| dash1tfvck | whenenver I'm done with my fabulous home network project, I'm gonna check out joyent's triton | 12:10 |
| dash1tfvck | am still somewhat partial to solaris-based OSs | 12:10 |
| dash1tfvck | shame that omnios went under | 12:11 |
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| dash1tfvck | oops, please ignore. I do not endorse joyent(tm) triton(r) products any more than the next guy | 13:01 |
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| dash1tfvck | on the other hand, if someone were be so kind and checked my earlier problem with layer/recipe precence (see https://termbin.com/3hi3), you'd make me seriously happy. I'd even stop stalking about joyent(tm) smartos(cc-by-sa) for a bit | 13:04 |
| smurray | that link 404s here | 13:09 |
| qschulz | there's a Yocto Project conference today and tomorrow so expect much longer than usual delays in support | 13:09 |
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| dash1tfvck | smurray: sorry. I'll repost. thanks qschulz. is there a webcast? | 14:10 |
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| RobertBerger | @dash1tfvck: the link points to some configurations | 14:12 |
| RobertBerger | @dash1tfvck: what exactly is the problem? what do you try to do? | 14:13 |
| dash1tfvck | RobertBerger: I've reorganized my thoughts: | 14:17 |
| dash1tfvck | problem: trying to build rpi-xen image with "bitbake xen-image-minimal" | 14:17 |
| dash1tfvck | relevant recipe: https://termbin.com/3hi3 | 14:17 |
| dash1tfvck | related recipes: https://termbin.com/3hi3 | 14:17 |
| dash1tfvck | symptoms: u-boot not flashed onto image, cmdline.txt missing xen options | 14:17 |
| dash1tfvck | this is the output as of now:: https://termbin.com/rndo | 14:17 |
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| dash1tfvck | also, the first link should be https://termbin.com/jdei | 14:21 |
| sgw1 | Hi RP, Summit seems to be going well, I have a multilib-32 question, should the site-config file from an SDK with 64-bit and Multilib-32 have the same sizeof values, is this correct? | 14:37 |
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| RP | sgw1: that does sound strange and probably not right | 14:42 |
| sgw1 | Seems that it's been that way for a long while now, but no real bugs filed, which means no one has really noticed maybe? | 14:43 |
| RP | sgw1: I suspect it isn't heavily used | 14:43 |
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| dash1tfvck | oh, the summit is attendance-only, no recording? | 14:54 |
| rburton | its being recorded and will be on youtube | 14:57 |
| dash1tfvck | nice | 14:58 |
| dash1tfvck | reading thor | 14:58 |
| dash1tfvck | s/thor/through some 2020 talks now | 14:58 |
| dash1tfvck | when a project has hardening docs that's usually a good sign IMO :) | 14:59 |
| dash1tfvck | I still hate bitbake's guts | 15:00 |
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| RP | dash1tfvck: I'm sure bitbake loves you too :) | 15:18 |
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| wyre | aren't you migrating to libera? 🤔 | 15:32 |
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| yates | this link appears not to be working now. is there a different one for the afternoon sessions? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.cvent.com/api/email/dispatch/v1/click/l5vw8rrw7lc74k/yk5kyb5l/aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZsaW5hcm8tb3JnLnpvb20udXMlMkZqJTJGOTQwODc5MTM5ODQlM0Zwd2QlM0RNekZNTlVScU5tVjJlbkJzWldrelREWndVVUUzZHowOSZYMkhHZzNyb0RLQll5UTgyJTJCdk5LYVdiclhuMGtxNzdJWWxMTklMQ2clMkJnVSUzRCZQcmVzZW50YXRpb24rUm9vbQ__;!!JvSy | 16:35 |
| yates | GAA!WX9S_C6wb25qS6XzpRw9LeDhgZ7lAz48mrGP4u_PjnHEm43RUXa5gEsy-YAQqgA$ | 16:35 |
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| qschulz | yates: presentation room or training room? | 17:01 |
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| vmeson | JPEW: https://gitlab.apertis.org/pkg/maynard This is a desktop shell client for Weston based on GTK. | 17:12 |
| JPEW | Got it. Thanks | 17:13 |
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| RP | kanavin: specifically with the ptest images, I think we should remove graphics and switch that to minimal | 17:26 |
| kanavin | RP: right, I will look into that | 17:27 |
| RP | kanavin: I'm sure I did work on this a while back somewhere | 17:28 |
| moto-timo | kanavin: if you go down the maynard path, I'm interested in collaboration | 17:29 |
| kanavin | moto-timo, I guess you could start by quickly throwing together a recipe and image, and boot that in qemu and play with the UI? | 17:31 |
| kanavin | moto-timo, I think we could adopt a hybrid approach, and use core-image-weston for the bulk of the testing, but also provide core-image-maynard for the eye candy | 17:33 |
| moto-timo | kanavin: fair enough | 17:33 |
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| armpit | dl9pf, are you sending emails to the layer owners or the stable branch maintainers or both? | 18:07 |
| dl9pf | armpit: whatever email is in the layerindex for the respective layer's maintainer . | 18:09 |
| dl9pf | armpit: I assume this may or may not match with owner/stable branch maintainers ;) | 18:10 |
| dl9pf | e.g. https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layer/meta-oe/ lists khem | 18:11 |
| v2d | Is #yocto moving to irc.libera.chat? | 18:12 |
| dl9pf | aka even https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/dunfell/layer/meta-oe/ lists khem | 18:12 |
| dl9pf | I can't know better at this stage (from the layerindex data) | 18:12 |
| dl9pf | armpit: you raise a good point | 18:12 |
| moto-timo | It comes down to the original design of the tool and layer maintainers self-reporting to some extent | 18:13 |
| moto-timo | e.g. maintainer might be in the “layer” ORM and not the “branch” ORM, so having stable branch maintainer(s) might require a database migration… | 18:18 |
| moto-timo | Also, stale data is just a reality | 18:18 |
| armpit | dl9pf, khem will just pass stable issues to me in the end | 18:20 |
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| JPEW | v2d: I don't think any decision has been made yet | 19:08 |
| v2d | JPEW: Okay, thank you. | 19:09 |
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| kpo_ | during todays talk by Tom King on yocto summit, he showed a glimpse of their CI/CD setup - do you folks have any hints about setting up Jenkins for yocto CI? | 19:40 |
| kpo_ | e.g. example docker builders, Jenkinsfiles etc | 19:40 |
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| kpo_ | nevermind, I see that tomorrow at 6:45 PM UTC is talk about "Gitlab CI for dummies" :) | 19:43 |
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| x0n^ | wow. this is a gold mine: https://pretalx.com/yocto-project-summit-2020/talk/W3YWW7/ | 20:33 |
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| JPEW | @rburton | 20:44 |
| JPEW | rburton: Unfortunately, maynard only works with the AGL compositor, not weston :( | 20:44 |
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| RP | JPEW: :( | 21:03 |
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| khem | zeddii: https://errors.yoctoproject.org/Errors/Details/585528/ seems 5.12 needs some changes for selftest any ideas ? | 21:43 |
| RP | khem: 5.12 isn't staying, it was just to see if the AB intermittent hangs persisted | 21:45 |
| khem | RP: ok | 22:07 |
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| smurray | JPEW: really? That surprises me, I'd have expected them to keep plain wayland client compatibility and not require agl-shell-desktop | 22:15 |
| JPEW | smurray: https://gitlab.apertis.org/pkg/maynard/-/blob/apertis/v2022dev2/client/maynard.c#L775 | 22:16 |
| smurray | JPEW: yeah, looks like one of the earlier commits straight out flipped it to depending on the agl-shell protocols. In theory that'd not be too bad as a dependency, as it only requires weston. Probably less interesting to the general community, though | 22:21 |
| RP | khem: is that setuptools upgrade patch still problematic for meta-oe? | 22:21 |
| JPEW | smurray: Ya too bad :( | 22:22 |
| khem | RP: no, I fixed the package | 22:22 |
| RP | khem: cool thanks. I'll stop blocking that patch then | 22:23 |
| RP | khem: I do try to help if I can :) | 22:23 |
| khem | RP: https://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/commit/?id=728e5b08e20f26e077d61f2857c31b20ff8162f4 | 22:23 |
| smurray | JPEW: it's a very significant fork from the old version, I suspect outside of whoever is keen to use it in Apertis there'll be no community | 22:23 |
| khem | RP: master-next barring the kernel upgrade issue is all good in meta-oe CI | 22:24 |
| RP | khem: I just pushed a new version :) | 22:24 |
| khem | ok cool onto next cycle then | 22:24 |
| RP | zeddii: btw, 5.12 has qemuppc kernel module issue and defconfig warnings. Just for reference | 22:25 |
| khem | haversine patch got merged upstream too . nice | 22:25 |
| RP | khem: I try and keep a gentle trickle of things flowing in rather than huge steps | 22:25 |
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| khem | yeah thats good. Actually gives some breathing space for other layers too keep in sync with core | 22:27 |
| khem | RP: btw esdk question came up, can we ship 32bit host tools along for a 64bit SDK host | 22:32 |
| khem | issue is that its editing the ldso to point to uninative but the binary is 32bit so it does not load | 22:33 |
| khem | and uninative is 64bit | 22:33 |
| khem | so it is trying to use 64bit ldso | 22:33 |
| khem | second question came up, how can we avoid shipping source info in sstate, is there a single setting somewhere ? | 22:35 |
| RP | khem: basically, no, esdk struggles with 32 bit on 64 bit | 22:35 |
| RP | khem: "source info"? you mean in the hash siginfo? | 22:36 |
| khem | yeah thats what I thought, so perhaps we can get esdk to leave the binaries alone which are not 64bit | 22:36 |
| RP | khem: you can't do that as uninative wouldn't work and that means the sdk is distro specific | 22:36 |
| khem | RP: the sstate contains all objects and debug info and srcs | 22:36 |
| RP | khem: there is currently no filter option. You can set SSTATE_DIR to a different directory on a per recipe or class basis though | 22:37 |
| RP | at least I think it might work. | 22:37 |
| khem | in some cases no symbols are to be exported and in some cases symbols can be exported and in general cases normal sstate is ok | 22:38 |
| matthewcroughan_ | So are you guys moving from Freenode -> Matrix like everyone else? | 22:39 |
| khem | so for third parties application SDK is reliable way then not esdk | 22:39 |
| RP | khem: we could do with better class support around this. You'd need some kind of "binary only" recipe to make sstate work in that context | 22:39 |
| khem | matthewcroughan_: I already have reserved #yoctoproject on matrix in case we ever decide to use it 🙂 currently its only me in there | 22:40 |
| RP | it can be done but doesn't exist today | 22:40 |
| khem | RP: yeah | 22:40 |
| RP | matthewcroughan_: many are going to libera or oftc rather than matrix | 22:40 |
| RP | which just makes the problem more complex | 22:40 |
| matthewcroughan_ | Yeah it does. I see a lot moving to Matrix though. So that's quite nice. | 22:41 |
| matthewcroughan_ | Matrix is a great thing. | 22:41 |
| RP | matthewcroughan_: we'd lose a load of our "old timer" people, maybe even me. Depends if we care about them or the newer tech more | 22:43 |
| * RP doesn't have an opinion on matrix other than "not another protocol" | 22:43 | |
| matthewcroughan_ | Well, can always be bridged nicely. There is that. | 22:45 |
| matthewcroughan_ | The bridging between Matrix/IRC is great. | 22:45 |
| matthewcroughan_ | Yeah.. I like IRC a lot too. | 22:45 |
| matthewcroughan_ | https://github.com/hifi/heisenbridge | 22:46 |
| matthewcroughan_ | Sorry if this is offtopic :) | 22:46 |
| RP | matthewcroughan_: not off topic, just no good answer :/ | 22:47 |
| RP | JPEW: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/89/builds/3482 mingw failure :( | 22:47 |
| matthewcroughan_ | I think heisenbridge is a good enough answer. It would be acceptable and bring the two communities together. | 22:48 |
| matthewcroughan_ | And not be annoying to those on IRC, which is the key bit. | 22:48 |
| matthewcroughan_ | The bridge is stateless and requires no configuration. | 22:48 |
| JPEW | Ok, I'll try to take a look tomorrow | 22:48 |
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| RP | or maybe matrix-appservice-irc... | 22:52 |
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| v2d | do you guys use deploy keys on github to clone private repository from bitbake? | 23:25 |
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| zeddii | khem / RP: i'll look into both as I gear up for 5.13, since I'm doing all arches on it, with the thought it might be the release kernel for the fall. Those will be the same there, and I'll solve it for both versions at the same time. | 23:43 |
| v2d | Thanks to my deploy key, I can `git clone git@github.com:company/repo.git` for the kas shell, but bitbake fails to fetch the sources. | 23:56 |
| v2d | how should I format the SRC_URI for my private github repo + deploy key? | 23:56 |
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