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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 06:33 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 06:35 |
| LetoThe2nd | yo mckoan | 06:35 |
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| JaMa | tlwoerner: ubuntu-22.04 and gentoo and happens only with langdale, haven't seen it with kirkstone yet (which might be just a because of number of changes in master), will try RP's reproducer in both and have a look | 06:51 |
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| mckoan | do we have an official explanation for the frequent message "the metadata is not deterministic and this needs to be fixed" ? | 07:32 |
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| RP | JaMa: my reproducer? | 07:53 |
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| JaMa | RP: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto/message/56602 the keymaps:do_patch issue | 08:39 |
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| RP | JaMa: ah, I'd forgotten about that! | 08:53 |
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| Juanosorio94 | I am trying to use a local kernel and I am assigning my SRC_URI to "file:///path/to/local/linux:protocol:file", however somehow my it is complaining that some variable S is not set correctly, any ideas? :l | 09:01 |
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| qschulz | Juanosorio94: usually externalsrc is used | 09:07 |
| qschulz | Juanosorio94: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-EXTERNALSRC | 09:08 |
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| * RP is finally getting the autogenerated graphs kind of beaten into submission: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/patchmetrics/ | 10:18 | |
| RP | kanavin_: shows the trend of patch status since 2006 (and also now recipe count for core) | 10:18 |
| RP | cve data for dunfell is still being worked on | 10:19 |
| RP | rburton: should load faster now :) | 10:19 |
| rburton | yes much better :) | 10:20 |
| rburton | i wonder how to measure 'patch churn' | 10:21 |
| RP | are there any other graphs we could/should add? | 10:21 |
| RP | rburton: what do you mean by patch churn? added vs removed? | 10:21 |
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| rburton | ie do we have the same ~200 submitted patches, or does that 200 change every few months | 10:21 |
| rburton | not sure how to measure that | 10:21 |
| RP | very hard to tell if a patch is "the same" or not :/ | 10:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | anybody have a neat idea what i could submit for ELC-E? | 10:22 |
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| rburton | LetoThe2nd: live yocto yogo | 10:22 |
| rburton | RP: right | 10:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: hmmm.... | 10:22 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: live coding, "submitting my first yocto project patch"? ;-) | 10:23 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: nope. | 10:23 |
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| uglyoldbob | How can I install extra files in a kernel recipe? FILES:${PN} seems to not work | 10:24 |
| RP | it is nice that we're roughly at the same patch count as we were 10 years ago, over time we've made decent progress on that | 10:24 |
| RP | uglyoldbob: which kernel package are you after them in and how did you conclude it seemed not to work? | 10:25 |
| RP | there are a lot of kernel packages | 10:25 |
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| uglyoldbob | Files/directories were installed but not shipped in any package: /boot/kernel | 10:26 |
| RP | uglyoldbob: did FILES:${PN} get set to the value you wanted? (check with bitbake -e) | 10:27 |
| RP | or bitbake-getvar | 10:27 |
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| kanavin_ | RP: cool, nice to have it visually. can the pie chart have absolute numbers too? | 10:30 |
| RP | kanavin_: probably, just a question of the right config | 10:31 |
| rburton | uglyoldbob: are you just adding a convenience symlink? | 10:31 |
| kanavin_ | RP: one can also hover over the regular chart. | 10:31 |
| RP | kanavin_: https://git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-metrics/tree/patch-status/index.html is the code | 10:31 |
| kanavin_ | RP: the high count of Submitted may mean those submitted patches need to be re-submitted, or at least re-checked | 10:32 |
| rburton | kanavin_: yeah, that's why i was wondering about the churn | 10:32 |
| kanavin_ | rburton, can you define churn? | 10:32 |
| rburton | a report of patch age vs status would be interesting | 10:32 |
| RP | kanavin_: it is possible upstream needs reminding about some of them | 10:32 |
| rburton | kanavin_: change of state | 10:32 |
| rburton | well, if people do the right thing and put a link to the submission after Submitted, we can make a tool | 10:33 |
| uglyoldbob | Rburton: not a symlink, a copy due to bootloader limitations | 10:33 |
| kanavin_ | rburton, that seems harder to do, but my hunch is that correctly updating patch status is rare: most statuses are set on patch introduction and never change | 10:34 |
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| rburton | uglyoldbob: make things easier by putting that file in a new package, not PN | 10:36 |
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| uglyoldbob | rburton: I'm not sure how to pull a copy of the compiled kernel in a separate package | 10:37 |
| rburton | how were you putting a copy of the kernel into the same package? | 10:37 |
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| rburton | just add a package by adding to PACKAGES, then set FILES as needed | 10:38 |
| RP | It is interesting that the number of backports has stayed high and fairly constant too | 10:38 |
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| RP | kanavin_: the number in pending has shrunk nicely :) | 10:40 |
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| * RP wonders why do_cve_check seems so slow | 10:41 | |
| kanavin_ | RP: yeah, I'll try to shrink it further | 10:41 |
| kanavin_ | RP: ah, now I realized what I wanted to see: each of the patch categories as its own graph, rather than piled on top of each other cumulatively | 10:42 |
| uglyoldbob | rburton: install -m ${WORKDIR}/linux-xbox-tiny-build/arch/i386/boot/bzImage ${D}/boot/kernel | 10:42 |
| RP | kanavin_: you can see that by the change in area in the combined chart but it isn't entirely easy to pick out at first | 10:43 |
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| kanavin_ | RP: there are reports of python 3.11 getting significant speedups, I wonder if this will make bitbake 'snappier' in single threaded tasks | 10:47 |
| RP | kanavin_: depends what they sped up. Might help parsing as that is our number one bottleneck | 10:48 |
| kanavin_ | I've also seen on lwn that the epic GIL problem may be getting solved, but don't have the link | 10:48 |
| qschulz | kanavin_: quick google search returns https://lwn.net/Articles/872869/ from end of last year | 10:49 |
| kanavin_ | yeah that one | 10:50 |
| qschulz | kanavin_: https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-2022-python-language-summit-python_11.html from two weeks ago | 10:52 |
| RP | kanavin_: sounds like quite a nice solution to the GIL issue although sadly it isn't the GIL that causes us issues | 10:57 |
| kroon | Am I crazy or does it sound like from reading that article, that core python developers are somehow resistant to letting CPython run at full speed on a multicore system, because of maintenance burden | 11:06 |
| RP | kroon: I didn't take it that way. They know they have a significant user base which uses single threading and they don't want to hurt that | 11:09 |
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| seninha | Hi, I built a core-image-full-cmdline linux image and, when running bitbake, it builds grub, but when booting it uses systemd-boot. How can I make the bootloader be grub instead? | 11:14 |
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| kroon | RP, yeah, but unless I've missed something, there is no "single-thread"-Java VM implementation, for use with single-threaded Java applications, that gives big improvements over a multithreaded Java VM | 11:16 |
| kroon | RP, i.o.w, it would appear to me that there exists ways to do cheap multithreaded ref. counting that don't punish single threaded applications | 11:17 |
| kroon | or .NET, ot whatever interpreted language | 11:18 |
| kroon | what would make python so special | 11:18 |
| Juanosorio94 | do I need a .bbappend file to use an external kernel source which is located somewhere else in my filesystem? | 11:20 |
| qschulz | Juanosorio94: what's the issue with externalsrc documentation I sent you? (trying to make sense of your question so we can help you) | 11:23 |
| Juanosorio94 | I tried to set that variable to "/path/to/gitrepo" but im still having "S is not set to the linux source directory. Check the recipe and set S to the proper extracted subdirectory" | 11:25 |
| Juanosorio94 | ok I needed to also inherit externalsrc class in my .bb file | 11:27 |
| Juanosorio94 | just having some license checksum errors now. but that helped me further, thanks | 11:27 |
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| qschulz | Juanosorio94: yeah license checksum changes happened a few times in the kernel so not too surprised, you have the new checksum in the error message I think | 11:28 |
| qschulz | let us know if you get stuck later on | 11:28 |
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| Juanosorio94 | thanks <3 | 11:32 |
| RP | kroon: They coded python to work really well for single threaded. I suspect java didn't do that. The language structure also has implications for how data locking works performance wise? | 11:39 |
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| Schiller | Hello. Can anyone give me an example on how to set up a Scheduler which triggers a Build when a defined repository receives a commit? | 11:43 |
| Schiller | I just seem to not be able to get it working :( | 11:43 |
| RP | Schiller: look at the docs repo on the autobuilder, it does that | 11:44 |
| RP | kanavin_: I thought I'd look at a pending patch. What a horrible rabbit hole to wander down. I still have no idea what to do with the patch status either! | 11:48 |
| RP | "the main source code in the 'src' directory is a real pain to understand as I've experimented with hundreds of slightly different versions. It contains many #if and some gotos, and is *completely optimized for speed* and not for readability." | 11:48 |
| * RP starts to wonder if this software should be in core or used by anything :/ | 11:49 | |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: what are you referring to, out of pure curiousity? | 11:49 |
| Schiller | RP: Thx. At least i got the confirmation now because that was exactly where i was looking at. And the whole quick and full setup is not necessary from what i read to make it work right? It could be a standalone builder and not part of the cluster. | 11:49 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: lzo | 11:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: sounds lovely! | 11:50 |
| RP | Schiller: docs works totally separate from quick/full | 11:50 |
| Juanosorio94 | Im trying to define a config for my kernel | 11:53 |
| Juanosorio94 | and using KBUILD_DEFCONFIG for this, as well as FILEEXTRAPATHS_prepend and SRC_URI pointing to the config file, it does not find anything.. am I doing smth wrong? | 11:54 |
| rburton | RP: looks like btrfstools is the only thing without an explict packageconfig for it | 11:56 |
| rburton | i'd definitely support moving lzop and lzo to meta-oe | 11:56 |
| rburton | last release 2017 is a good reason alone | 11:57 |
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| RP | rburton: I like the idea too. I did mail the author about the patch just to see if they care | 11:57 |
| RP | mrybczyn[m], rburton: Do you think we could make the warnings from cve-check conditional? Right now it turns my metrics builds on the autobuilder orange :/ | 11:58 |
| RP | On the plus side, dunfell cve lists now work too | 11:58 |
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| rburton | yeah should be easy enough to have a switch to turn them to notes | 11:58 |
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| rburton | i'll send a patch once i've sorted out my current rabbit hole | 11:59 |
| RP | rburton: thanks, I can do it if you want, I was just wanting to check if it was ok first | 11:59 |
| rburton | RP: i can prep a lzo-ectomy too as i like deleting stuff | 12:00 |
| RP | rburton: haha, I was wondering if you or kanavin_ could resist! :) | 12:00 |
| RP | rburton: I've sent an update to the patch header which invites the next change | 12:03 |
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| kanavin_ | RP: I've started with something easy: mark all zip/unzip patches as Inactive-Upstream! | 13:45 |
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| RP | kanavin_: it looks like that lzo patch was submitted in 2015 so we can probably mark it as similar | 14:06 |
| * RP knew there was a tag he wasn't remembering | 14:06 | |
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| rburton | lzoctomy successful | 14:30 |
| kranzo | hi there, | 14:33 |
| kranzo | in my recipe-sysroot i can find a .pc-file with `Cflags: -I/usr/include/subpath` given, how is yocto fixing up the path to use `CFLAGS= -I <path/to/recipe-sysroot>/usr/include/subpath` ? | 14:33 |
| rburton | gcc's --sysroot parameter | 14:33 |
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| kranzo | rburton: to easy. thx | 14:34 |
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| sotaoverride | has anyone run overlayfs.bbclass on dunfell/ | 14:49 |
| sotaoverride | ? | 14:49 |
| sotaoverride | im generally trying to understand if I should botehr using it, or just do the work manaully with a script or something | 14:50 |
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| mckoan | sotaoverride: manually because I'm using dunfell | 15:23 |
| jonmason | paulbarker: you around? | 15:26 |
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| Juanosorio94 | how can I make sure my patches are getting applied to the local kernel I am using? I am navigating into the tmp/work-shared/machinename/kernel-source dir (which seems to be just a soft link) and I do not see the patches being applied there :( my kernel compilation is apparently failing because these patches are missing | 15:39 |
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| jonmason | Juanosorio94: use devtool | 15:47 |
| jonmason | devtool modify linux-yocto | 15:47 |
| jonmason | you'll get a git tree with the patches applied (or not) | 15:47 |
| jonmason | then hack on that created directory and get it booting | 15:48 |
| Juanosorio94 | thanks | 15:49 |
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| moto-timo | I guess the meeting is done ;) | 16:00 |
| tlwoerner | i guess we're done? | 16:00 |
| RP | Seems so, I was also cut off | 16:00 |
| rburton | scheduled slot in zoom i guess | 16:00 |
| RP | Saur[m]: what I was about to say was for something you can talk publicly about like boost share a process tree | 16:00 |
| RP | Saur[m]: It could be the worker but you'd normally see errors if the worker processes weren't alive and they do communicate with the server | 16:01 |
| rburton | oh was stephen the host and he quit? | 16:01 |
| RP | rburton: probably | 16:02 |
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| Saur[m] | RP: Ok. | 16:12 |
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| futureposer[m] | Hi everybody, I'm new to yocto. I want to add a dt-blob.bin for raspberry-cm3 to /boot-partition of the sdimg. According to documentation this would be possible with DEPLOYPAYLOAD for the rpi-sdimg (from meta-raspberrypi). Unfortunately I need to use sdimg for mender.io and therefore DEPLOYDATA is not available AFAIK. What would be the yocto-style alternative for adding the file to boot? | 16:41 |
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| sotaoverride | OVERLAYFS_MOUNT_POINT[data] = "/data" | 17:44 |
| sotaoverride | what the var for overlayfs that can be used to define the parition disk itself for the mount point? | 17:45 |
| sotaoverride | what's* | 17:45 |
| sotaoverride | or does that have to be done manually and overlayfs.bbclass doesnt have a var for it? | 17:45 |
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| zeddii | moto-timo: I haven't been online for a few days now, due to the storms in Ottawa. Are you hearing of other people with python3-six blowing up ? | 21:04 |
| * zeddii checks the mailing list. | 21:04 | |
| moto-timo | zeddii: not that I remember... but since python2 is EOL six should be less used ;) | 21:05 |
| * moto-timo ducks | 21:05 | |
| zeddii | this is just OE core. hmm. I see a cleanall may have fixed it, and now it is blowing up on the next python3 package. might just be old cruft | 21:05 |
| moto-timo | zeddii: is this for looper or similar? | 21:05 |
| zeddii | this is core-image-minimal (plus some docker, podman, etc, that I always have defined in my local.conf) | 21:06 |
| zeddii | I updated this morning and started a build. now seeing this. likely just bad sstate or such. let me see if the clean on initparse -> build fixes it | 21:07 |
| RP | zeddii: I heard another report of "weird python failures" which disappeared on a clean tmpdir. Nobody has been more specific about these failures :/ | 21:10 |
| zeddii | this is what I just got: https://paste.debian.net/1241893/ | 21:10 |
| zeddii | and that's the same images I would have built on Friday before the apocalypse hit Ottawa | 21:11 |
| zeddii | this is the one, that a cleaanall -> build seems to have fixed: https://paste.debian.net/1241894/ | 21:11 |
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| RP | zeddii: it does look like there is something bad in the sysroot which is upsetting things. What that is I have no idea though, I've not seen that | 21:13 |
| * RP hasn't reused a builddir for a few days | 21:13 | |
| khem | seems new setuptools caused pain | 21:13 |
| zeddii | I'll just clean things up and it should sort itself out. | 21:14 |
| RP | zeddii: it is handy to know the kind of error though, thanks | 21:14 |
| RP | zeddii: just use clean btw | 21:15 |
| khem | now that they dont want to do py2 to py3 kind of stuff they have other ways to mess with you 🙂 and packaging seems to be the new area, | 21:15 |
| RP | zeddii: I really doubt sstate is broken and you don't need to download again | 21:15 |
| zeddii | ack'd will try that for a lighter cycle | 21:15 |
| khem | it seems there are mixes of old and new setuptools looking at the logs, either its generating some files during build which are perhaps not captured to invalidate shared state perhaps | 21:19 |
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| RP | khem: how do you tell the difference between old and new? | 21:23 |
| khem | I am not sure either, packages can do a lot of stuff in setup.py | 21:24 |
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