| nerdboy | <sigh> i'm stumped why this suddenly started failing a bunch of packages: https://paste2.org/dbaXd7yL | 00:09 |
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| nerdboy | especially since i don't have anything rpm-ish around... | 00:09 |
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| RP | paulg: basically start a hashserv on one, point all the others at it | 00:36 |
| RP | use the db from an existing build if that generated the sstate | 00:36 |
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| RP | Saur_Home: you did test that series with oe-selftest -r devtool right? | 07:40 |
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| * paulg is running out of patience with this hashserv stuff. | 08:16 | |
| paulg | have client connecting to local server, but the db hasn't changed after an hour of building. | 08:17 |
| paulg | [Client ('192.168.168.176', 54432)] Handling get-outhash | 08:18 |
| RP | paulg: that seems strange unless it just hasn't synced to disk | 08:18 |
| paulg | all the interactions are logged (with DEBUG) as get-outhash. At startup, it indicated anon clients had @dbadmin privs (plus the other defaults) | 08:19 |
| paulg | but I've seen nothing that looks like a write/update db operation triggered by the client... | 08:19 |
| RP | there should be a write after any sstate task completes | 08:20 |
| paulg | so for completeness, I should mention I don't use DL_DIR or SSTATE_DIR ; I just symlink the NFS mounts directly into the build for both (vs. screwing with vars in conf/local.conf). But surely everybody does that. | 08:21 |
| RP | paulg: mostly we set the config but that doesn't matter | 08:22 |
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| paulg | ok, just checking. | 08:22 |
| paulg | our docs are pretty frustrating with respect to indicating who needs to run hashserv, and how to do it... if you are new to the concept. | 08:28 |
| RP | agreed, I worry that needing to do this isn't clear and how to do it :/ | 08:29 |
| paulg | https://elinux.org/images/e/eb/Yps2021.11-hash_equiv.pdf | 08:29 |
| paulg | page 19 is just horrible - worse than the help text you get from running "--help" itself!! | 08:30 |
| paulg | https://www.thegoodpenguin.co.uk/blog/improving-yocto-build-time/ | 08:30 |
| paulg | ...seemed to be the best link I found that gave me something I could understand and make use of. | 08:31 |
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| RP | If it were me I'd run bitbake-hashserv -b <ip>:4567 -d build/cache/hashserv.db and then BB_HASHSERVE = "<tp>:4567" | 08:32 |
| paulg | our page is here, for context, in case anyone else is reading: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#hash-equivalence | 08:32 |
| JaMa | paulg: there was more recent presentation from JPEW | 08:32 |
| JaMa | paulg: but it probably won't help you much with the configuration | 08:33 |
| paulg | RP, AFAICT, that is pretty much exactly what I've done... | 08:35 |
| paulg | paul@o990:~/poky$ ./bitbake/bin/bitbake-hashserv -b :8687 -l DEBUG -d ./hashserv.db | 08:35 |
| paulg | and on the conf/local.conf of client... | 08:35 |
| paulg | BB_SIGNATURE_HANDLER = "OEEquivHash" | 08:35 |
| paulg | BB_HASHSERVE = "auto" | 08:35 |
| paulg | BB_HASHSERVE_UPSTREAM = "o990.local:8687" | 08:35 |
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| RP | no, that is different | 08:35 |
| paulg | OK, I'm all ears. | 08:35 |
| RP | set BB_HASHSERVE, not BB_HASHSERVE_UPTREAM | 08:36 |
| paulg | ok - I'll give that a test. 'cause you know, it is only 3:36am and I am stubborn. | 08:37 |
| RP | "Upstream" is a passthrough to something readonly so it matches what you're seeing | 08:37 |
| RP | "auto" means start a local private server | 08:37 |
| RP | you don't want either behaviour | 08:37 |
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| paulg | ok. Our docs really could use a worked example. "Bob has machines A, B, C, and D. A will be exporting downloads and sstate via NFS to B, C and D." | 08:39 |
| RP | paulg: seriously, please send a patch. It is hard to know how to explain this once you know how it works | 08:39 |
| paulg | I get it. I also suck at documenting things I already know how to do. So does everybody. | 08:40 |
| luc4 | Hello! I'm trying to debug a layer where it seems some files are missing in the boot partition. What is the best way to debug the variables resulting from the machine configuration? I read about bitbake -e, but the output is a bit confusing. Is there a way to log variables defined inside the machine conf files? | 08:40 |
| RP | this is relatively new, complicated and we do suck at documenting things we know. We do have docs support so a patch will likely encourage them to work out how to improve the docs even if the patch itself isn't perfect first try | 08:41 |
| RP | paulg: not that I'm suggesting your patches aren't perfect :) | 08:41 |
| paulg | steaming pile of perfection! | 08:45 |
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| paulg | That looks more promising... | 08:55 |
| paulg | [Client ('192.168.168.214', 53168)] Handling report | 08:55 |
| paulg | timestamp and size of hashserv.db changed too. This might actually work? | 08:58 |
| paulg | The real proof will be if I can go tomorrow (well, later "today") to one of my gutless turds and dodge compiling llvm and mesa | 09:01 |
| paulg | on a similar topic, just how "good" should I expect sstate to be? (hit vs. miss). Say I do "bitbake core-image-minimal ; mv tmp deletemelater ; bitbake core-image-minimal" | 09:08 |
| paulg | should it be able to get to do_rootfs w/o recompiling anything, or is that unreasonable? | 09:09 |
| paulg | or, if I build x86, and then build arm in another build dir (but shared sstate) - should I not see any "foo-native" packages being compiled? | 09:10 |
| RP | paulg: it should skip to do_rootfs in that first case and in the second, it should reuse foo-native | 09:11 |
| RP | paulg: if it didn't and it was the same metadata, that would be a bug | 09:12 |
| paulg | OK, good to know. I'm hoping hashequiv helps. With a daily pull, I typically get depressing results like this... | 09:13 |
| paulg | Sstate summary: Wanted 1249 Local 30 Mirrors 0 Missed 1219 Current 616 (2% match, 34% complete)############################ | ETA: 0:00:01 | 09:13 |
| paulg | Sstate summary: Wanted 602 Local 8 Mirrors 0 Missed 594 Current 1254 (1% match, 67% complete) | 09:14 |
| paulg | ...in case anyone wondered why I've never had a lot of love for sstate. | 09:15 |
| paulg | I know, most people don't update that often, but I like to see what is going on and what got broke... | 09:16 |
| RP | paulg: we've had a lot of changes to the "core" one way or another. Its is a nightmare for me trying to run test builds too | 09:18 |
| paulg | I don't doubt it one bit. | 09:21 |
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| RP | Saur_Home: I'm thinking the ton of devtool failures in testing may be from the minicom upgrade. Trying to isolate... | 09:48 |
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| paulg | [Client ('192.168.168.203', 54928)] Adding taskhash equivalence for c3373afc83602b98ebd45a80b2226a222a8df7fd586453b160a388b20be442d1 with unihash 67b554c8ac220295686ebe70072b98584bfadbf5910c10077679351f19557876 | 10:14 |
| paulg | That looks like progress. | 10:14 |
| RP | paulg: yes, its doing "things" :) | 10:15 |
| paulg | ...besides heating my house. :-P | 10:15 |
| * paulg calls it a win for now and heads off in search of some Zzzz | 10:18 | |
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| paulg | Sstate summary: Wanted 1051 Local 69 Mirrors 0 Missed 982 Current 814 (6% match, 47% complete) | 16:25 |
| paulg | Better than 1 or 2% but still not great. That is after at least 3 machines have built core-image-minimal on master in the last 24h to populate sstate with hashserv, and starting the 4th just 5m ago. | 16:27 |
| RP | paulg: if the config is the same, the second/third/forth should reuse :/ | 16:28 |
| paulg | bog standard auto generated config, with only the HASHSERV lines added at the bottom. | 16:29 |
| paulg | It is *possible* that there was/were checkins on master while I was sleeping ; I didn't explicitly verify the SHA; I just pulled before building like I always do. | 16:30 |
| paulg | pulled on one of yesterday's build machines and master didn't change. | 16:32 |
| paulg | From git://git.yoctoproject.org/poky | 16:32 |
| paulg | + e718f07fbc56...056dddfe5bf0 master-next -> origin/master-next (forced update) | 16:32 |
| paulg | only master-next | 16:32 |
| paulg | would be interesting to see some of those "Sstate summary:" lines from the AB workers... | 16:36 |
| paulg | wondering if their hit/miss ratio is crap too, but they just power through with grunt. | 16:36 |
| paulg | I'm going to run the two tests I talked about yesterday - move tmp aside and rebuild ; new build dir and new arch and build -- all while staying on the same machine. | 16:42 |
| paulg | I have a suspicion that when you move to a physically different builder, something changes the hash. Just a guess at this point. | 16:44 |
| RP | paulg: it would be useful to work out if there is an issue | 16:52 |
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| RP | paulg: I've been doing some "back to back" builds on the autobuilder as it happens. https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/63/builds/8537/steps/12/logs/stdio | 16:53 |
| RP | Initialising tasks...Sstate summary: Wanted 7070 Local 7061 Mirrors 0 Missed 9 Current 0 (99% match, 0% complete) | 16:53 |
| paulg | yeah, that is what I want to see locally! | 16:54 |
| RP | https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/73/builds/8529/steps/12/logs/stdio Initialising tasks...Sstate summary: Wanted 8196 Local 8132 Mirrors 0 Missed 64 Current 0 (99% match, 0% complete) | 16:55 |
| RP | paulg: so I'm not totally making this up! | 16:55 |
| paulg | I've got a mix of ubu-18.04 using buildtools (for newer python) and ubu-20.04 that don't use buildtools. But even then, eventually I should see 90%+ | 16:56 |
| RP | paulg: is uninative active? | 16:56 |
| RP | is tmp/sysroots-uninative/ present? | 16:56 |
| RP | (if so, yes) | 16:57 |
| paulg | seems to be - but it looks ancient - dates back to September? | 16:58 |
| paulg | paul@oc-1055t:~/poky$ ls -l build/tmp/sysroots-uninative/ | 16:58 |
| paulg | total 20 | 16:58 |
| paulg | -rw-r--r-- 1 paul paul 532 Sep 1 13:27 buildinfo | 16:58 |
| paulg | -rwxr-xr-x 1 paul paul 9045 Sep 1 13:29 relocate_sdk.py | 16:58 |
| paulg | drwxr-xr-x 7 paul paul 4096 Sep 1 13:29 x86_64-linux | 16:58 |
| paulg | Let me put it another way - AFAIK, I didn't do anything to actively disable uninative | 16:59 |
| * paulg goes to look up what the hell it is (again) | 16:59 | |
| RP | paulg: it is enabled by default, I just wanted to check | 17:00 |
| RP | sep is probably fine | 17:00 |
| paulg | checked a bunch of others - also same vintage. | 17:02 |
| paulg | but yeah, I can see how if that special prebuilt libc wasn't there, the sstate would be garbage (how the hell did the name "uninative" come about?!?) | 17:04 |
| RP | paulg: universal native sstate | 17:05 |
| paulg | I'm sure I'll be looking up what it does again in six months... | 17:07 |
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| RP | paulg: for some reason the RTC kernel config patch we just merged comes to mind (goldfish RTC) :) | 17:10 |
| paulg | :) | 17:10 |
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| RP | rburton: "AssertionError: '/.cache/debuginfod_client/' not found in 'Server query failed: No such file or directory'" - https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/79/builds/6424/steps/15/logs/stdio :( | 17:15 |
| * RP thinks he might understand the latest weird race on the autobuilder | 17:16 | |
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| paulg | another machine that was off-line for a few days. Update and build core-image-minimal | 17:20 |
| paulg | Sstate summary: Wanted 1045 Local 0 Mirrors 0 Missed 1045 Current 820 (0% match, 43% complete) | 17:20 |
| paulg | That is terrible! And so it is building llvm-native AGAIN. | 17:21 |
| paulg | yet I can see that same machine chatting with the hashserv box | 17:21 |
| RP | paulg: compare the filenames in tmp/stamps/x86_64-linux/ see if you can see different hashes | 17:21 |
| paulg | ok | 17:22 |
| paulg | I chose stamps for make-native ; since I'm pretty sure nothing has changed there overnight - ls in the make-native stamp dir and all the hash are different - every one AFAICT. | 17:29 |
| RP | ok, that is a good start as you've a thread to pull on. Is there a make-native sstate artefact in the sstate cache with any of those hashes (do_populate_sysroot I guess) | 17:30 |
| RP | you could also bitbake-diffsigs the two siginfo files, see what it says is different between them. That usually involves chasing up a dependency chain | 17:32 |
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| paulg | let me dig around a bit based on the above and quit distracting you for a while. :-P | 17:33 |
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| RP | paulg: quilt-native is always at the end of the dependency chains btw | 17:36 |
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| paulg | ok - let me use quilt instead of make. | 17:41 |
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