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| gvmeson | Someone's laptop was OOMing and when I told them about the existing tuning knobs, they asked if anyone played with /proc/PID/oom_score_adj for bitbake builds? One can just set the parent shell that should help guide the OOM killer to reap one of bitbake's child processes. | 00:54 |
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| gvmeson | it might be nice to add a bitbake option or a shell wrapper. I may do that if they find that this approach helps. | 00:55 |
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| mischief | is it possible to patch a git submodule in a sane way | 03:58 |
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| khem | gvmeson: on latest yocto pressure handing is available, not sure which version you are at. look for BB_PRESSURE_MAX_* variables | 04:15 |
| khem | mischief: yes it is depending upon how you are modifying the tree, git submods are easy to work with | 04:16 |
| mischief | khem: i need to patch this | 04:16 |
| mischief | https://github.com/Qorvo/QGateway/blob/master/Software/OpenThread/buildall.sh#L158 | 04:16 |
| mischief | the geniuses at qorvo do a git fetch and cherry pick of upstream openthread into a submodule at compile time :-/ | 04:17 |
| khem | ah quorvo stuff so perhaps not yocto then its MCU stuff right ? | 04:17 |
| mischief | no, this is the rcp that runs on the (our) host | 04:17 |
| khem | oh compile time fetching is a bad sign | 04:17 |
| mischief | right. this only appeared with the no net changes while we upgrade to scarthgap | 04:19 |
| mischief | i need two changes, one to remove this git fetch and another to apply the patch to the submodule, but im not sure how to do patches to submodules. | 04:19 |
| khem | well, you can use SRC_UTI with multiple git repos and fetch the openthread module and turn the cherry function into a dummy | 04:20 |
| khem | look at breakpad recipe e.g. | 04:20 |
| mischief | so move to two git:// SRC_URI instead of gitsm://? | 04:21 |
| khem | you can even try using gitsm:// fetcher | 04:21 |
| mischief | can devtool modify work with that to create the patch? | 04:21 |
| khem | yeah two repos would be more expressive | 04:21 |
| khem | devtool I am not sure, I usually do not use it on complex recipes yet | 04:22 |
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| ndeuteron | Hello mischief, fancy seeing you here! :) | 05:21 |
| mischief | g'day m8 | 05:25 |
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| rburton | ebassi: yeah very strong fan of removing the legacy image manifest and just having the spdx, i think we need to write or suggest some basic tooling to extract stuff like "what packages were in this image" from the spdx first | 10:43 |
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| RP | rburton: turning it off by default would be a good start | 11:00 |
| RP | rburton: JPEW should be sending a patch for that I hope! | 11:00 |
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| ebassi | rburton: my goal is to have a CI pipeline set up some static web page like this one, populating it from the metadata: https://releases.elementary.io/ | 12:03 |
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| ebassi | rburton: so the spdx is definitely more appropriate | 12:04 |
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| ebassi | I might go for the full sbom for a more detailed report, but the spdx.tar.zst is a good start for a quick overview | 12:07 |
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| Tyaku | Hello, When we have multiple layers, what is the good practice to update IMAGE_INSTALL ? currently what we are doing is probably uggly: We have "company layer" that contains the "product image", and in the "product image" we put IMAGE_INSTALL from differents layers, like "company bsp for board X" "layer for matter protocol" "layer for openthread". Long time ago I find peoples that was doing something | 13:40 |
| Tyaku | different like: Updating directly the "core image" in layer A, B, C. So that when this layers are present, the related package are automatically added to the image. | 13:40 |
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| mckoan | Tyaku: maybe you mean dynamic-layers https://community.tmpdir.org/t/how-to-use-dynamic-layers-in-yocto/446 | 13:49 |
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| Tyaku | I was more thinking about something like this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52625668/yocto-development-image-with-bbappend-in-multiple-layers but instead of doing .bbappend on the "company image" (or image.bb in this example), doing the .bbappend directly to core-image-base | 14:28 |
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| Tyaku | If it works, is it a good practice doing like this ? | 14:28 |
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| yocton | Isn't that methode specifically forbidden by yocto-check-layer? (I have not verified it). Personaly, I do not like when BSP layers do what you describe :-/ | 14:36 |
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| yocton | I also would recommend using the dynamic-layers mecanism on a "image" layer sitting on top of every others and appending to your image depending on what layer is added or not. | 14:37 |
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| rburton | Tyaku: why can't you just have a single image in your product layer that depends on all the layers you need | 14:54 |
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| JPEW | RP: sent | 15:03 |
| ebassi | RP: we're using scarthgap, so I assume not | 15:03 |
| RP | ebassi: right, sadly that is 2.2. spdx 3 is much nicer as it doesn't need a tarball of docs :/ | 15:04 |
| RP | JPEW: great thanks | 15:04 |
| ebassi | RP: I'll make a note, in case we can backport it to our tree | 15:06 |
| JPEW | ebassi: There's been talk of making a mix-in layer to backport it also, smurray was interested (among others) | 15:06 |
| RP | JPEW: I think we probably need to do this | 15:08 |
| JPEW | RP: Ya, there is enough interest that I'm pretty sure it will happen | 15:09 |
| JPEW | Worth bringing up on the tech call | 15:09 |
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| RP | JPEW: agreed | 15:12 |
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| RP | JPEW: can that example script use the bindings we have in lib/oe for spdx? | 15:14 |
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| JPEW | RP: Ya, it can (assuming that's in the python library search path); I was trying to model how it would work if you wanted to make an standalone tool | 15:16 |
| RP | JPEW: right, I'm torn as someone using OE/bitbake likely has these pieces already so they can do it simpler. I'm not sure which is more useful... | 15:16 |
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| JPEW | Right. The difference in my mind is do we want an example that people can use to do their own thing (in which case, I think this is more useful), or an actual tool to do a specific thing (in which case, using the existing library makes more sense) | 15:18 |
| JPEW | Or maybe both | 15:18 |
| JPEW | Perhaps some sort of additional manifest-from-spdx script would make sense | 15:19 |
| RP | both might be interesting if not too painful... | 15:19 |
| JPEW | Ya, I think the hang up for me is that I don't really like "guessing" on use cases | 15:20 |
| RP | JPEW: we're not trying to guess, more just show what is possible and both directions are something someone might want to do | 15:20 |
| RP | I think in time this will become easy/commonplace but until then... | 15:20 |
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| wdouglass | is there a way to add a layer to a yocto project from a bitbake recipe? i have a vendor that packages their sdk (for a special piece of hardware) as a set of binary libraries and a bitbake meta-layer, but it would be nice from a CI and bringup perspective for me to treat that whole vendor package as a dependency and have bitbake unpack and install it, but also expose all of the .bb packages inside. Is there any way to accomplish this o | 16:11 |
| wdouglass | am i out of line here? | 16:11 |
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| rburton | wdouglass: yeah you can't do that. though bitbake-layers makes it a one-liner to add a directory (or even a remote repo, i think) as a layer. | 16:13 |
| wdouglass | yeah, that's what we're doing now, i was just wondering if there was a way to streamline it from a devops perspective. thanks for the quick answer! | 16:13 |
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| kanavin | wdouglass, I think you should make a git repo for both, and do overwrite and commit in that repo each time you get a new bundle from the vendor | 19:04 |
| kanavin | then fetch the layer as you would fetch any other layer | 19:04 |
| kanavin | and have a serious talk with the vendor, they're misusing yocto | 19:05 |
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| wdouglass | kanavin: no kidding, they are indeed misusing yocto, but unfortunately there's a language barrier, so I don't think i'll get anything to change. Unfortunately, I think yocto is (mis)used in different ways by many vendors -- the greatest offender i've seen is qualcomm (although they're not the vendor in question, i'll just never stop being mad at qualcomm) | 19:25 |
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| rburton | I hope to see Qualcomm improve in the future, fwiw | 19:45 |
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| kanavin | wdouglass, you don't need to tell me, at some point I spent several months guiding qualcomm to fixup their layer to something resembling sanity from a safe distance | 19:56 |
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| wdouglass | rburton: me too, but i'm not holding my breath, and i'm not rushing to buy qualcomm chips any time soon | 20:08 |
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| wdouglass | kanavin: thank you for doing that work! i know its not easy | 20:08 |
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| mischief | khem: devtool modify doesn't seem to work with multiple git:// SRC_URI :( | 21:12 |
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| RP | mischief: there may be a bug open for that, if not there should be if it doesn't work | 21:16 |
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| mischief | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15162 was marked resolved but im not sure that it is truely resolved :) | 21:30 |
| mischief | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15294 remains open | 21:30 |
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| rburton | mischief: use gitsm: if the sources are actually using git submodules | 21:50 |
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| mischief | m( | 21:53 |
| mischief | rburton: i had this conversation with khem yesterday who suggested splitting it into two git:// | 21:54 |
| mischief | i need to patch the submodule... | 21:54 |
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| jwinarsk | Anyone else hitting this in master? Nothing PROVIDES 'virtual/cross-binutils' | 22:29 |
| jwinarsk | building with meta-clang | 22:30 |
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| RP | jwinarsk: which branches of core and meta-clang are you using? | 22:31 |
| jwinarsk | master | 22:31 |
| RP | jwinarsk: did you update both?> | 22:32 |
| jwinarsk | yep | 22:32 |
| jwinarsk | CI was failing, then I setup a local build. Same thing | 22:32 |
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| RP | jwinarsk: https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?id=6b1e65b7d6ce163b9cd9515e915074248b718979 should have set that up | 22:33 |
| jwinarsk | hold on | 22:33 |
| RP | jwinarsk: is bitbake up to date too? | 22:34 |
| jwinarsk | I had meta-openembedded on styhead. Checking again | 22:34 |
| jwinarsk | yeah poky was on styhead too. Sigh | 22:35 |
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| jwinarsk | operator error. Thanks for the assist | 22:36 |
| RP | at least it wasn't my patch :) | 22:37 |
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| jwinarsk | lol | 22:38 |
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| Saur | RP: Please hold off on my Meson patch that adds CMake support. It seems it can lead to CMake injecting host paths into Meson's target configuration under some circumstances... :( | 22:47 |
| RP | Saur: rburton mentioned this earlier as potentially possible so it was on hold. I'll drop it from -next until I hear otherwise, thanks for the headsup | 22:48 |
| Saur | RP: Ok. I think I am on track for finding a solution, but it means I have to increase my CMake knowledge above 0%... | 22:50 |
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| Saur | RP: Me too... | 22:53 |
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