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| paulbarker | Morning | 07:44 |
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| paulbarker | x32 ABI may be on the chopping board again: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260523093734.A3AR7reJ@linutronix.de/ (h/t LWN) | 07:45 |
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| Guest77 | Are you using dev and release distro conf or just one for all? What is the best practice? | 07:56 |
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| electricworry | kanavin: Thanks for the info on bitbake-setup. If I understand correctly, the content of config-upstream.json is the metadata describing the layers (and commits) that were used when `bitbake-setup init` was run. And those layers come from a centralised configuration (e.g. poky-wrynose) allowing subsequent updates via `bitbake-setup update`. | 08:02 |
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| electricworry | It feels like for any project that involves pulling in additional layers that there isn't tooling yet to incorporate that into that paradigm. | 08:04 |
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| Guest77 | Is there any source related to "how to design proper custom distro with yocto" ? | 08:37 |
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| rburton | Guest77: quite a vague question, can you be more specific | 08:39 |
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| Guest77 | What I mean is, when creating a distro, are the “dev” and “release” environments separated like dev-distro.conf and release-distro.conf? Because the dev environment might include debugging and related tasks and it might not have the same security hardening and infrastructure as the release environment. | 08:43 |
| Guest77 | So I'm trying to understand best practices. | 08:43 |
| Guest77 | I'm leaving now will be back, I can see your comments via logs. Thank you in advance. | 08:45 |
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| rburton | if you want to have a dev distro with lots of differences then sure, make a dev distro that inherits from the release distro and changes the options (or have them both inherit from a common base) | 08:46 |
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| RP | paulbarker: Interesting. I wonder if we should reply to that | 09:32 |
| rburton | RP: i thought you already had but just realised your reply linked in the lwn article was from 2018 | 09:34 |
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| RP | rburton: do you have a link? I'd like to check what I said in 2018 :) | 09:43 |
| RP | I'll send a reply to that patch basically saying no objection | 09:43 |
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| RP | https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/12/13/573 | 09:45 |
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| RP | heh, failing rsync ptests | 09:49 |
| RP | mathieudb: the rsync upgrade may have to be deferred due to upstream changes to their tests | 09:49 |
| paulbarker | RP: I was just looking at that. The AI-driven conversion to runtests.py is already part of v3.4.2 which we have in our master branch | 09:51 |
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| RP | ah, we didn't previously run the tests | 09:55 |
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| Guest77 | rburton thanks | 10:08 |
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| Guest77 | What is the difference between INHERIT += "foo" and inherit foo | 10:30 |
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| RP | Guest77: INHERIT is a conf file directive and global, inherit is a recipe level directive | 10:35 |
| Guest77 | RP thanks | 10:39 |
| Guest77 | I want to understand the classes and use the ones that will be useful to me but there seem to be a bit many. I will take a look at their outputs by inheriting them all. =D | 10:41 |
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| paulbarker | Guest77: I recommend starting with the docs: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/classes.html | 11:09 |
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| Guest77 | paulbarker thanks. | 11:13 |
| Guest77 | Do you use vulnerability monitoring or do you integrate it with CI/CD in some way? Let’s say I released a version but a CVE was published two months later. How would I know about it? Is there a tool that handles this automatically and gives report?? | 11:14 |
| rburton | Guest77: read the manual, specifically the bits on cve checking | 11:15 |
| rburton | sbom-cve-check, if you're using the latest release | 11:15 |
| Guest77 | @rbut | 11:16 |
| Guest77 | thumbs up | 11:16 |
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| agodard | Guest77: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/security-manual/vulnerabilities.html | 12:27 |
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| PeterM | Hi all, what are the options to generate OpenVEX document? https://gitlab.com/syslinbit/public/yocto-vex-check gives 404 now... | 13:54 |
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| JPEW | PeterM: It's possible to generate OpenVEX from the SPDX 3 data; I had a PoC to do this https://github.com/JPEWdev/spdx3toopenvex but it might need more work | 13:59 |
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| PeterM | JPEW: thank you | 14:11 |
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| PeterM | Should be made more visible (docs?), Internet searches only gave me tools from boolin/syslinbit | 14:15 |
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| kanavin | electricworry, config-upstream.json is an implementation detail that you needn't worry too much about. The original list of layers comes from a 'configuration template', which itself can come from three places: a json file specified on command line, e.g. 'bitbake init path/to/json', same json file but fetched over http: 'bitbake-setup init https://server/file.json' or an identifier into a 'configuration registry', which is | 16:55 |
| kanavin | either your own registry, or the official yocto registry, which is where you pulled poky-wrynose from. | 16:55 |
| kanavin | electricworry, if you just say 'bitbake-setup init' then it will give you a list of options in the registry and ask to choose | 16:56 |
| kanavin | electricworry, what I'm trying to say is, if you seek to add more layers, you need to start by making your own 'configuration template', perhaps by copying and tweaking an existing one from the registry https://git.openembedded.org/bitbake/tree/default-registry/configurations | 16:57 |
| kanavin | electricworry, there's documentation too https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/dev/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.html | 16:57 |
| kanavin | paulbarker, RP, I'm convinced there were never any actual x32 users, except those with an @intel.com address, but a grace period should be done anyway | 17:00 |
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| kanavin | oh, and there's a response on oe-core list about the 32 bit sdks at siemens: they aren't using them, they just have a CI that would set them up and test themt because it replicates yocto's ci :) | 17:04 |
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| Guest59 | Hi, Is meta/conf/distro/defaultsetup.conf automaticly added to my-custom-distro.conf right? | 19:12 |
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| rburton | Guest59: yes, see bitbake.conf | 19:36 |
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| Guest59 | rburton thanks! looks like all the default values here. Good to know that :) | 19:45 |
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